From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39520 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Pittman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [bug] Mark limit score Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 15:57:04 +1000 Organization: Not today, thank you, Mother. Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87elnyhn0v.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> References: <7ktt2sb6.fsf@hschmi22.userfqdn.rz-online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175218 28437 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:40:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 19632 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2001 05:58:31 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 20 Oct 2001 05:58:31 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15up8k-0008Og-00; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 00:57:46 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 20 Oct 2001 00:57:24 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA18671 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 00:57:12 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 19620 invoked by alias); 20 Oct 2001 05:57:29 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 19615 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2001 05:57:28 -0000 Original-Received: from melancholia.rimspace.net (HELO melancholia.danann.net) (210.23.138.19) by gnus.org with SMTP; 20 Oct 2001 05:57:28 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by melancholia.danann.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF632A820 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 15:57:11 +1000 (EST) Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3DEF88219E; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 15:57:04 +1000 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:37:48 +0200") X-Homepage: http://danann.net/ Original-Lines: 51 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39520 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39520 On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Kai Gro=DFjohann wrote: > Frank Schmitt writes: >=20 >> What do you think about this: >>=20 >>=20 >> --- lisp/gnus-sum.el Thu Oct 18 20:03:02 2001 >> +++ /cygdrive/c/Programme/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el [...] > If I understand correctly, this means that calling > gnus-summary-limit-to-score without specifying a score via the prefix > arg means that the user is prompted. >=20 > It's not clear to me that this is a good idea: C-d does not prompt you > how many characters to delete, either, it just deletes 1 character > unless you specify otherwise. Control-D is operating in an environment where there is only *one* possible thing that you want it to do: delete the character following point. You can *repeat* this operation several times if you wish, getting the same effect each time. By contrast, there is a broad range of scores in the average Gnus buffer[1] that the user may mean when they request a 'narrow to score'. Also, limit to sender, limit to subject and friends don't have any default that they use, for precisely the same reason: it's *not* clear which value the user meant. Finally, I support this change because every single time I have used narrow to score I have ended up spitting and cursing at Gnus for being a brain-dead, stupid thing that has a crazy-ass default on that command. I suspect that I am not alone in this. :) Daniel Footnotes:=20 [1] Assuming that most Gnus buffers have scoring like mine or more advanced. --=20 Most of the luxuries and many of the so-called comforts of life, are not on= ly not indispensable, but positive hindrances to the elevation of mankind. -- Henry David Thoreau, _Walden_, "Economy" [1854]