From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2494 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2021 15:39:01 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 23 Sep 2021 15:39:01 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mTQoO-009MkA-6l for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2021 10:39:00 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1mTQoN-005pFM-IG for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2021 10:38:59 -0500 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1mTQoM-005pFG-DN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Sep 2021 10:38:58 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1mTQoJ-00HSCR-9W for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Sep 2021 10:38:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=IjnReO4OEZH96Ww1u7btZaE+FyHyrO+i/AqoQRcB4Zc=; b=SjWrvmIwfW6keOoacWhKO+QeIx C2J7jnV7T16d02YYKnZGC8riEfeNf/YGXrqD2L9sR+O4IJugVBqnDBQSDUwD+vOAi5ePgRMmsTgYU 7EvniuOiXSVILwKPh3Hv5KZ35tS4nlGRR6Hts2bRll75FTNq9U9ocbmVs7J/cCgz9NG0=; Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mTQoA-0003dw-HU for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:38:50 +0200 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-156.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.156]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AC508FA09E; Thu, 23 Sep 2021 15:38:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1632411523; bh=IjnReO4OEZH96Ww1u7btZaE+FyHyrO+i/AqoQRcB4Zc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=q4+W8/JZ6617idUhEoyP1Vm/ctRVmZKu60xYirukWBImJZrqJADQdookzzQO0RBvd BOflqej9QMUuHlMcOLRjR6qmvd/0WHtrCdu3eSO6uLBpp3zSDJMYrn9vBGRVXyExA9 6P4fZcy5PtLMeKaLPDIFTC/5QYCXws38/0ezsH20= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Rajeev Gore Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: gnus-summary-delete-article: The current newsgroup does not support article deletion References: <8735pvmstv.fsf@anu.edu.au> <87k0j75xj8.fsf@anu.edu.au> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 08:38:41 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87k0j75xj8.fsf@anu.edu.au> (Rajeev Gore's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:41:47 +1000") Message-ID: <87fstvz4hq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk Rajeev Gore writes: > Sorry for not answering your other question Eric. > > B Del gives me the same error ie in the subject. > > I just realised that I might be missing the point of gnus. The problem is that you're working on an NNTP server, which is a "news" server, meaning that you don't own the articles. Essentially you're looking a big public archive, and you don't have permissions to change the archive (apart from sending messages in). You can make additional local copies of the articles, but that's it -- that's how it's supposed to work. > I have moved across from vm and so I am used to having one giant inbox > file with assorted other files for senders say. > > I have therefore tried to emulate this style by storing my inbox in > RMail format. > > So suppose the file is called GnusMail. > > I do a G f on the file to fire up a server and then mark messages as E > when I have read them. > > I expected B e to directly delete emails from the GnusMail file itself. > > But perhaps I have misunderstood how gnus works. > > By the way, there is another annoying thing. > > When I say o to try to move an email from GnusMail to another folder, > gnus insists on making the default contain a nndoc+ as part of the path. > But I am trying to store my emails in something like ~/MAIL rather than > ~/Mail and the nndoc+ just gets in the way! You can look at the value of `gnus-default-article-saver' to change the default behavior.