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[81.34.152.210]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c77sm675584wme.37.2021.04.28.13.06.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:06:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: emacs 28.0.50 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) From: Uwe Brauer To: Tassilo Horn Cc: Uwe Brauer , ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: aren't virtual groups not updated References: <87im489l13.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <878s531zop.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r1iui476.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87o8dy41wp.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Uwe Brauer X-Hashcash: 1:20:210428:tsdh@gnu.org::fNBsN8R2ifys0zct:000001Z+e X-Hashcash: 1:20:210428:oub@mat.ucm.es::E/ebFGuVDGn+wG40:0001pcl X-Hashcash: 1:20:210428:ding@gnus.org::EKJ1iZPId1PInRst:00002z6W Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 22:06:57 +0200 Message-ID: <87fszai36m.fsf@mat.ucm.es> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha256; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" List-ID: Precedence: bulk --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>> "TH" =3D=3D Tassilo Horn writes: > Uwe Brauer writes: >>> At this point I would suggest using nnselect groups rather than >>> nnvirtual groups for this sort of thing. I think you'll find they >>> work much more reliably. See the "select groups" section of the Gnus >>> manual. >>=20 >> No sure I understand, can I do that interactively on the fly as I can do >> this with virtual groups? >>=20 >> Do you really mean this >> http://www.gnus.org/manual/gnus_80.html#Select-Methods > No, he means (info "(gnus) Selection Groups"). Well, the latter gives me, and I quote=20 ,---- |=20 | 7 Select Methods | **************** |=20 | A =E2=80=9Cforeign group=E2=80=9D is a group not read by the usual (or de= fault) means. | It could be, for instance, a group from a different NNTP server, it | could be a virtual group, or it could be your own personal mail group. |=20 | A foreign group (or any group, really) is specified by a =E2=80=9Cname= =E2=80=9D and a | =E2=80=9Cselect method=E2=80=9D. To take the latter first, a select meth= od is a list | where the first element says what back end to use (e.g., =E2=80=98nntp=E2= =80=99, | =E2=80=98nnspool=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98nnml=E2=80=99) and the second element= is the =E2=80=9Cserver name=E2=80=9D. There | may be additional elements in the select method, where the value may | have special meaning for the back end in question. |=20 | One could say that a select method defines a =E2=80=9Cvirtual server= =E2=80=9D=E2=80=94so we | do just that (*note Server Buffer::). | ETC ETC=20 `---- While the former via the link=20 ,---- | A foreign group is a group not read by the usual (or default) means. | It could be, for instance, a group from a different NNTP server, it | could be a virtual group, or it could be your own personal mail group. |=20 | A foreign group (or any group, really) is specified by a name and a | select method. To take the latter first, a select method is a list | where the first element says what back end to use (e.g., nntp, | nnspool, nnml) and the second element is the server name. 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