From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88934 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: A new open email standard: https://jmap.io/ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 16:34:36 +0100 Message-ID: <87fth5ixyr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h81mzsv4.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0caf0cb.fsf@randomsample> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="244708"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: ding-owner+M37137@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Dec 27 16:35:42 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ikreM-0011Jx-Ni for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 16:35:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1ikrdj-0000e8-Ct; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 09:34:59 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1ikrdf-0000bI-DB for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 09:34:55 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1ikrdd-0000LW-SE for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 09:34:55 -0600 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ikrdW-00035B-UE for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 16:34:49 +0100 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45966) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ikrdU-0007O0-98; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 10:34:44 -0500 Original-Received: from auth1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.227]:38927) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ikrdT-00084n-IA; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 10:34:44 -0500 Original-Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108B321E90; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 10:34:42 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 27 Dec 2019 10:34:42 -0500 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrvddvkedgjeejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvufhfffgjkfgfgggtsehttdertddtredtnecuhfhrohhmpefvrghsshhi lhhoucfjohhrnhcuoehtshguhhesghhnuhdrohhrgheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpegthihruh hsihhmrghprdhorhhgpdhfrghsthhmrghilhdrsghlohhgpdhjmhgrphdrihhonecukfhp peegiedrkedtrdeijedriedunecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehthhhorhhnod hmvghsmhhtphgruhhthhhpvghrshhonhgrlhhithihqdekieejfeekjeekgedqieefhedv leekqdhtshguhheppehgnhhurdhorhhgsehfrghsthhmrghilhdrfhhmnecuvehluhhsth gvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: Original-Received: from thinkpad-t440p (p2e50433d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.80.67.61]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id ADAF6306088E; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 10:34:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87d0caf0cb.fsf@randomsample> (David Engster's message of "Fri, 27 Dec 2019 12:56:52 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88934 Archived-At: David Engster writes: Hi David, >> https://fastmail.blog/2019/08/16/jmap-new-email-open-standard/ >> https://jmap.io/ > > They try to establish this for many years now, but I don't see it > taking off. It surely has nice features for mobile users, but people > use messengers there anyway. For Gnus, I don't think you'd notice much > difference over IMAP. But first they would have to get this into an > actual popular IMAP server (meaning: Dovecot). Until then, this is > pretty much a Fastmail-only thing. Cyrus 3.0.0 to 3.0.5 supported some earlier draft but the support was removed with 3.0.6 because the spec evolved too rapidly for a stable version. But the docs say that the development version supports the current JMAP version. https://cyrusimap.org/imap/developer/jmap.html Bye, Tassilo