From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88260 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nntp servers with multibyte group names? Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 12:20:48 -0800 Message-ID: <87ftvm6zmn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87tvk270sn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87in0i5l6h.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1543349943 23248 195.159.176.226 (27 Nov 2018 20:19:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 20:19:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36470@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 27 21:18:59 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gRjox-0005v9-46 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 21:18:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gRjr1-0007aB-VF; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:21:08 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gRjqt-0007XJ-K6 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:20:59 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gRjqr-0004Il-V5 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:20:59 -0600 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gRjqq-0005RN-QL for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 21:20:56 +0100 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gRjoh-0005cO-Sb for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 21:18:43 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:g4JZ7FTVbsql9PU/68ZYbzRyFEs= X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88260 Archived-At: Adam Sjøgren writes: > Eric writes: > >> I'd like to test this with the nntp backend, but I don't actually know >> if nntp is allowed to have multibyte group names. I've gone browsing >> through some publicly-accessible nntp servers and haven't found anything >> but ascii-compatible group names, even for servers at, eg, Taiwanese >> universities. >> >> Are multibyte group names even legal? > > According to RFC 3977 (Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP)): > > "o Although this specification allows UTF-8 for newsgroup names, they > SHOULD be restricted to US-ASCII until a successor to RFC 1036 > [RFC1036] standardises another approach. 8-bit encodings SHOULD > NOT be used because they are likely to cause interoperability > problems." > > - https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977#section-10 Interesting! Thanks for that (I guess I could have looked that up myself). I will assume for now that group names are coming in as ascii, but maybe leave a note in the code. Eric