From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78194 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: shr - span elements with title attribute, tooltip? Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:16:14 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87fwq5g2kh.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <871v1tc82r.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ei5rkr6b.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sju5g5qa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oc4tg3xn.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301426227 20789 80.91.229.12 (29 Mar 2011 19:17:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:17:07 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26505@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Mar 29 21:17:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4ePR-0005gg-He for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:16:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4eP9-0004cv-Vd; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:16:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4eP8-0004cc-Hv for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:16:38 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4eOz-0001B3-EC for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:16:33 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4eOy-0000Nw-N8 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:16:28 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4eOx-0005S3-L3 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:16:27 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:16:27 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:16:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:w8bbQuDuCz1lBuOX75hOTiFq8S4= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78194 Archived-At: On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:04:00 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> ...you can't possibly argue that it makes sense for the user to hover >> over every image hoping it has a tooltip? That works for XKCD because >> the users have been trained by now to play that joke, but not generally. LMI> I think the idea is that people will hover over images that they don't LMI> understand. :-) They can't hover without a mouse. I keep saying that and it's the aorta of the problem. The vena cava, OTOH, is that you expect users to TAB to each image in order to possibly discover its tooltip. Do you have to TAB in dired to see file sizes and permissions? LMI> I'm not sure "title" on non-image elements is relevant to shr. Just LMI> like shr doesn't implement
, title on non-image elements may be LMI> outside its domain. OK, let's improve titled images then. I don't feel strongly about titled elements in general, although Adam and maybe others want them rendered. Ted