From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/71805 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: STARTTLS support Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:17:54 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87fwwx2fl9.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87ocbo4e4c.fsf@gmail.com> <87mxr7z8hp.fsf@gmail.com> <844odf5ap0.fsf@davestoy.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285482031 32565 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2010 06:20:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 06:20:31 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M20178@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Sep 26 08:20:30 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozkb2-0002KW-5V for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:20:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozkar-000460-D1; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:20:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozkak-00045h-Tg for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:20:07 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozkaj-00053m-MT for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:20:06 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ozkai-0000Yk-00 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:20:04 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ozkah-0002GS-O8 for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:20:03 +0200 Original-Received: from c-24-14-16-248.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([24.14.16.248]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:20:03 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-24-14-16-248.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:20:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-14-16-248.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IYO85e0ilLOemQDhmGxlorA8SG4= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:71805 Archived-At: On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:20:08 +0800 CHENG Gao wrote: CG> I am wondering if starttls.el and tls.el could be merged. To my CG> understanding, they are to some extent same thing (anyway starttls is CG> tls). According to manual starttls is recommended way (if server CG> supports it), and gnutls is recommended tool. So IMHO starttls.el could CG> be merged into tls.el, and change starttls-program default to gnutls CG> instead of homebrewed starttls. Or even remove support of starttls (last CG> version is in 2005)? Let me finish the GnuTLS integration work (currently stuck because of a strange handshake problem) and then we can work on a sensible way to have a single interface in Emacs to handle all the TLS modes. I'll make sure to CC ding and emacs-devel for that. Meanwhile, if you or anyone else wants to take a shot at fixing it, I've checked in my latest (broken) GnuTLS work into the Emacs repo. Ted