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* gnus-group-list-groups should always list any open Summary groups
@ 2009-07-12 14:24 jidanni
  2009-07-13 19:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: jidanni @ 2009-07-12 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

l runs the command gnus-group-list-groups
OK, but it should still show groups that presently have Summary buffers
("*") open, even if there are no unread articles in them!



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* Re: gnus-group-list-groups should always list any open Summary groups
  2009-07-12 14:24 gnus-group-list-groups should always list any open Summary groups jidanni
@ 2009-07-13 19:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
  2009-07-19  0:11   ` jidanni
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2009-07-13 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:24:28 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: 

j> l runs the command gnus-group-list-groups
j> OK, but it should still show groups that presently have Summary buffers
j> ("*") open, even if there are no unread articles in them!

Why should it do that?

Ted




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* Re: gnus-group-list-groups should always list any open Summary groups
  2009-07-13 19:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2009-07-19  0:11   ` jidanni
  2009-07-20 17:21     ` Ted Zlatanov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: jidanni @ 2009-07-19  0:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

>>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
TZ> On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:24:28 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: 

j> l runs the command gnus-group-list-groups
j> OK, but it should still show groups that presently have Summary buffers
j> ("*") open, even if there are no unread articles in them!

TZ> Why should it do that?

Because one is certainly very interested in groups that one has
currently opened, and gnus-group-list-groups (l) is the primary command
for listing the groups one is very interested in, vs. L.



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* Re: gnus-group-list-groups should always list any open Summary groups
  2009-07-19  0:11   ` jidanni
@ 2009-07-20 17:21     ` Ted Zlatanov
  2009-07-20 19:52       ` jidanni
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2009-07-20 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:11:53 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: 

>>>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
TZ> On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:24:28 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: 

j> l runs the command gnus-group-list-groups
j> OK, but it should still show groups that presently have Summary buffers
j> ("*") open, even if there are no unread articles in them!

TZ> Why should it do that?

j> Because one is certainly very interested in groups that one has
j> currently opened, and gnus-group-list-groups (l) is the primary command
j> for listing the groups one is very interested in, vs. L.

I'm not convinced this would actually be useful.  Normally users are
either inside a single summary buffer or at the group level without
active summary buffers; rarely do you have to visit the group buffer
while a summary buffer is active.  I could be wrong, but at least my
vote is that this is not necessary.  Anyone else?

Ted




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* Re: gnus-group-list-groups should always list any open Summary groups
  2009-07-20 17:21     ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2009-07-20 19:52       ` jidanni
  2009-07-20 23:50         ` jidanni
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: jidanni @ 2009-07-20 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

TZ> rarely do you have to visit the group buffer while a summary buffer
TZ> is active.
And when you do, you see the stars
TZ> I could be wrong
if indeed those groups just happened to have 0 unread articles, then the
shocker that they were still open won't hit you until you exit gnus, and
are asked about them.



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* Re: gnus-group-list-groups should always list any open Summary groups
  2009-07-20 19:52       ` jidanni
@ 2009-07-20 23:50         ` jidanni
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: jidanni @ 2009-07-20 23:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding

>>>>> "j" == jidanni  <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes:
j> if indeed those groups just happened to have 0 unread articles, then the
j> shocker that they were still open won't hit you until you exit gnus, and
j> are asked about them.
Indeed, s (gnus-group-save-newsrc) doesn't even ask you about them. It's
not until a phone call comes and you've got to run and you hit q
(gnus-group-exit) until you get prompted with
"Update summary buffer bla.bla... ?".
Of course my http://jidanni.org/comp/configuration/.gnus.el
contains (setq
 gnus-single-article-buffer nil
 gnus-kill-summary-on-exit nil
etc.)



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