From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/63491 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: TSUCHIYA Masatoshi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: 21.5 crash in Gnus Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:40:01 +0900 Message-ID: <87fygv6e26.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> References: <1142286252.31896.5.camel@jerrypc.cs.usu.edu> <87mzftjyd2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <873bhjiqht.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8764hte4ob.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> <87psg13p5o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874pxcgao0.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> <87vepszcq4.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153439114 20773 80.91.229.2 (20 Jul 2006 23:45:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m12018@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jul 21 01:45:12 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G3iCZ-0005TW-LJ for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:45:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1G3iCH-00020K-00; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:44:49 -0500 Original-Received: from nas01.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.39]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1G3i7w-00020C-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:40:20 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas01.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G3i7u-0008HI-G1 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:40:20 -0500 Original-Received: from vaj.namazu.org ([61.215.208.42]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1G3i7k-0002Xa-00 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:40:08 +0200 Original-Received: from vaj.namazu.org (vaj.namazu.org [61.215.208.42]) by vaj.namazu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490AE205BA for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:40:02 +0900 (JST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-cite: xcite 1.57 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:18:43 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:63491 Archived-At: >> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:18:43 +0200 >> reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc (Reiner Steib) said as follows: >>> `charset' parameter of this MML tag is used to specify the `charset' >>> parameter of the top level `Content-Type' header. >> >> Yes that works quite well, no mime parts created, correct mime headers >> generated... >But if you include characters that are not present in this charset, >those will be replaced by question marks, see > in gmane.test. Yes, of course. If a user specify his/her favorite encoding, it is his/her job to select an encoding that can represent all characters in his/her message, I think. If a user specify no encoding, it is Gnus's job to select an appropriate one according to `mm-coding-system-priorities'. >I wonder why people have the need to specify the charset in the first >place. I show an example. Because almost of all messages written in Japanese are encoded in ISO-2022-JP, mail users in Japan will select ISO-2022-JP as an normal-use encoding as Gnus also selects. Unfortunately, a broken mailer cannot process messages encoded in ISO-2022-JP, but can process messages in UTF-8. When a user has to send a message to another user using that broken mailer, he/she will want to select UTF-8 temporally. -- TSUCHIYA Masatoshi