From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56589 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: deskpot@despammed.com (Vasily Korytov) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [Q]: How good is gmane for you ? Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:10:00 +0300 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87fzcnm4x3.fsf@unix.home.local> References: <87r7w9d2x1.fsf@unix.home.local> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1078519476 4249 80.91.224.253 (5 Mar 2004 20:44:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 20:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5129@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Mar 05 21:44:28 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AzMBI-0002wf-00 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:44:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AzMB3-0001c8-00; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:44:13 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AzMAz-0001c3-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:44:09 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36AE83A028D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:44:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AzMAw-0000be-00 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:44:06 +0100 Original-Received: from d132-70.dialup.relline.ru ([195.146.70.132]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:44:06 +0100 Original-Received: from deskpot by d132-70.dialup.relline.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:44:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: d132-70.dialup.relline.ru Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:r8HfXkw2YosC4GUdhmU7vl9MBVc= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56589 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56589 On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 23:24:20 +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote: > On 3 mar 2004, Vasily Korytov wrote: > > In fact what takes long here is the long anti-spam process. Each mail > is processed by 2 anti-viral and pass trough 3 different anti-spam. I > am quite paranoiac with spam and virus. [...] I hate spam too (but I rely only on spamassassin and some header and blacklist checks). Unfortunately, gmane spam filters are not good enough for me (speaking honestly, they definitely _suck_: e.g. in gmane.emacs.xemacs.user.russian they appear to filter legimate mail, but pass a lot of spam), so, for some groups I prefer checking spam myself -- because gmane may be faster, but _it simply does not filter spam_. That almost equivs of having no filter -- which is much quicker, may I assure you. >> supposed to be closer to you -- and faster (if it isn't so, you >> _really_ should change the e-mail provider). > > I am my own SMTP :p Heh. I misunderstood you. I thought, ``fetching mail'' was a concern of net connection, not your 3 spam filters and 2 antivirs. >> I have always recommended setting up a local newsserver. E.g. Leafnode >> is very easy to set up and really fits for dial-up or alike. > > I ear about "feeds" for inn but I just don't know what this is all > about :) Maybe I should investigate on that ? Eghm... If you want to read news offline, but do not want to have local groups or, say, usenet <=> fido gate, leafnode is enough -- you don't need inn/dnews and newsx/suck (they really may be hard to understand). And its configuration is really simple and straightforward. I've heard about other analogs, but never used them. -- I accept RFC3156 and RFC2440-compatible encrypted mail. PGP key fingerprint: 3273 7F6F 7B87 5DD5 9848 05FB E442 86BC 2E6B 6831