From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54896 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Josh Huber Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam.el: automatically resplitting ham in a spam group? Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:07:10 -0500 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87fzgi4um9.fsf@amalthea.paradoxical.net> References: <87ptfoni1r.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <87llqcnhxv.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <87he10hv3v.fsf@amalthea.paradoxical.net> <874qwykcjh.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069362468 24306 80.91.224.253 (20 Nov 2003 21:07:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3436@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Nov 20 22:07:45 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMw1h-0007Ta-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:07:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AMw1F-0003NZ-00; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:07:17 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AMw1A-0003NU-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:07:12 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (quimby.gnus.org [80.91.224.244]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E993A0025 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:07:11 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMw19-0001kF-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:07:11 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 34 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-172-223-248.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1069362431 6673 207.172.223.248 (20 Nov 2003 21:07:11 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JpNLxOzdAUXzR75di/RlNFDzK1s= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54896 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54896 Kai Grossjohann writes: > Yes. I just tell spam.el to move spams to INBOX.makespam and hams > to INBOX.makeham, and then the server-side config does the rest. Sounds nice! > Incoming mail is passed through Bogofilter before invoking > cyrdeliver. (I should be using LMTP but haven't figured that out, > yet.) I was thinking of using the exiscan extensions inside exim to tag messages with a header, and then users could create a sieve rule to filter based on that header. I guess that's about the same as you're doing. > There are cron jobs which connect to the imap server using an > administrative account (it's a Perl script using Mail::IMAPClient). > The cron jobs train Bogofilter on user.jrl.makespam and > user.jrl.makeham. The spam is then deleted, and the ham moved back > into the user's inbox. (I have a separate database for each user.) This sounds like a nice solution. Based on the bogofilter score, do you sometimes reject messages? I was thinking it would be nice if this were tied into the Exim data acl so I could reject messages early on, but I guess that's not a requirement. > I could show the script if you like, but it's really ugly. Could you send it to me privately, just so I can get a good idea of how this is done? I promise I won't tell anyone how ugly it is :) -- Josh Huber