From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52859 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Florian Weimer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Crypto key bindings considered harmful Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 14:45:14 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87fzn0eexx.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054039464 6322 80.91.224.249 (27 May 2003 12:44:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1403@lists.math.uh.edu Tue May 27 14:44:23 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19KdoV-0001dn-00 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 14:44:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19KdpY-0006Hw-00; Tue, 27 May 2003 07:45:28 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19KdpO-0006Hq-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 May 2003 07:45:18 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 65318 invoked by alias); 27 May 2003 12:45:18 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 65313 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 12:45:18 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO mail.enyo.de) (212.9.189.178) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 27 May 2003 12:45:18 -0000 Original-Received: from [212.9.189.171] (helo=deneb.enyo.de) by mail.enyo.de with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 19KdpK-0006hP-00 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 14:45:14 +0200 Original-Received: from fw by deneb.enyo.de with local (Exim 4.14) id 19KdpK-0002Tl-QJ for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 14:45:14 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52859 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52859 Key sequences such as 'C-c C-m c' are a *very* bad idea. Guess why. 8-/ The crypto support has more serious usability problems (e.g. if the '#secure' tag is not at the beginning of the message, it is ignored without warning *sigh*). Is anybody looking at such issues? I plan to write a general check list to evaluate crypto-enabled mail clients, but I can't promise anything right now (too much other tasks).