From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52529 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gaute B Strokkenes Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus Agent and mail Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 06:52:21 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87fznkg19m.fsf@cam.ac.uk> References: <6uiswfhrqs.fsf@zork.zork.net> <8465phob8k.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <87d6jk1flj.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <87llxhm2ol.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <87fznmhjih.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <87k7cytpco.fsf@cam.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052718783 16791 80.91.224.249 (12 May 2003 05:53:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 05:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1073@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 12 07:53:02 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19F6FC-0004Mg-00 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 07:53:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19F6Ff-0000GM-00; Mon, 12 May 2003 00:53:31 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19F6Fa-0000GH-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 12 May 2003 00:53:26 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 29325 invoked by alias); 12 May 2003 05:53:26 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 29320 invoked from network); 12 May 2003 05:53:26 -0000 Original-Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (62.253.162.46) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 12 May 2003 05:53:26 -0000 Original-Received: from belldandy ([81.100.93.186]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030512055324.GSDS12018.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@belldandy> for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 06:53:24 +0100 Original-Received: from gs234 by belldandy with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19F6EX-00025o-00 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 06:52:21 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEWWWBTly7aGMwb+/vz9 +ffIilb///+yaCxNCwHGVC3gAAACU0lEQVR4nF2TQWvjMBBGVUGwj3WxaY/aAWNfi0zuwZPuHp0Q ob079OwYjHrsChb0s3dGctJ0ddTzm9F8lsR7WiNiWWL/flviul9Uh0NR4vY/gJUxJjOEtt/AubBy UsotRfH2DbxWE0hom3w5XJUEKis9hACt2hR4B86VDOtqTNHfgeEGvLiUN7Ddze26Dx6y1CUa+ygo NwFQm0N/BeMzCZAtNIoQrd9EhcH5mWpnztB8ZpJBlH23jaAbuE4EhZ2Bam0TeJ0DRMCKVP6CegWk q4z2TVFUx0946FOPcSe9ELE3rSHAj15rBuddS0C4BGyAutfpVAQkKdZOQiwMMIHxlUDrgeej5Ns7 I/ccSWNBLda1XwYBEG1Qswy1yXJf879nA4cjkNI0H+FzoUyuRodPA5eqZwFONG34i30ccOxeKFUy flNe1szqsgLdvXwKCj6zjTXODHV9M46gZPCLlYKCGTYO8S0aOAvJzRfD0w+1XcGIsxLUw/sYl5sM 9n0yjkoSUDOByrijwRRiAq13NhqLJYB3ACazrgN2bIwanyJQKXhHAJPRPQruEaCJP2Shy4DJ2As+ FQjJZH7AZIy6w0pQiiRYAh8nTEZHYDfRqSDeB5OXq4EEcAC4NocvoBl4+n1cyl54nyLRNA3iIwRP wNGFOK1g1Gz8jNfaCjdtqJLm2LXuqMc+50cDIJQpr6X0OHa4X58ULAw03QbRd7GUiG/K04mj0bNB xQhwJkEsJiZ1Bbgb6CnF79cBE+jwF91qniOCP3fghUFKxOShjIATw/wOfIQTg39LpFHtxhlKywAA AABJRU5ErkJggg== User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52529 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52529 On 12 mai 2003, kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com wrote: >Gaute B Strokkenes writes: >> * gnus-draft.el (gnus-group-send-queue): Bind >> message-send-mail-real-function to the value of >> gnus-agent-send-mail-function when sending queued mail. > >I don't like the idea of messing with >message-send-mail-real-function. What happens to someone who is not >using the agent (i.e. gnus-agent-send-mail-function is nil)? The sole purpose of that function is to send queued mail (it is the one that `J S' in the group buffer is bound to.) So if you're not using the agent, you're not using this function. >What issue are you trying to resolve by adding this binding? Mail is sent by this function pretty much like any other mail. Therefore, before my patch it would be rewritten back to the queue folder if gnus were unplugged. (Some people might like to be protected from hitting `J S' by mistake while unplugged, by I think it's a misfeature. But I digress.) With my patch, if gnus-agent-queue-mail is set to always, mail would always be rewritten to the queue folder if this hunk were not present. Then there would be no way to send mail without temporarily setting gnus-agent-queue-mail to t or nil. Hmm. Actually, is is possible to enter the queue group and send messages with `D s' and `D S'. I need to take care of those cases as well. >We will have to wait until the code is checked in to see what is >arguable. I've learned that some people find any behavior changes to >be objectable. Well, life is not supposed to be easy ;-) -- Gaute Strokkenes http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gs234/ Let's all show human CONCERN for REVEREND MOON's legal difficulties!!