From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52489 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gaute B Strokkenes Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus Agent and mail Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:08:22 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87fznmhjih.fsf@cam.ac.uk> References: <6uiswfhrqs.fsf@zork.zork.net> <8465phob8k.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <87d6jk1flj.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <87llxhm2ol.fsf@cam.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052583700 28780 80.91.224.249 (10 May 2003 16:21:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1033@lists.math.uh.edu Sat May 10 18:21:38 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19EX4J-0007Nw-00 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 18:19:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19EX5I-0000Du-00; Sat, 10 May 2003 11:20:28 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19EWua-0000DB-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 10 May 2003 11:09:24 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 15952 invoked by alias); 10 May 2003 16:09:24 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 15947 invoked from network); 10 May 2003 16:09:24 -0000 Original-Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (62.253.162.46) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 10 May 2003 16:09:24 -0000 Original-Received: from belldandy ([81.100.93.186]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030510160919.IFSQ12018.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@belldandy> for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:09:19 +0100 Original-Received: from gs234 by belldandy with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19EWta-0000id-00 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:08:22 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEWWWBTly7aGMwb+/vz9 +ffIilb///+yaCxNCwHGVC3gAAACU0lEQVR4nF2TQWvjMBBGVUGwj3WxaY/aAWNfi0zuwZPuHp0Q ob079OwYjHrsChb0s3dGctJ0ddTzm9F8lsR7WiNiWWL/flviul9Uh0NR4vY/gJUxJjOEtt/AubBy UsotRfH2DbxWE0hom3w5XJUEKis9hACt2hR4B86VDOtqTNHfgeEGvLiUN7Ddze26Dx6y1CUa+ygo NwFQm0N/BeMzCZAtNIoQrd9EhcH5mWpnztB8ZpJBlH23jaAbuE4EhZ2Bam0TeJ0DRMCKVP6CegWk q4z2TVFUx0946FOPcSe9ELE3rSHAj15rBuddS0C4BGyAutfpVAQkKdZOQiwMMIHxlUDrgeej5Ns7 I/ccSWNBLda1XwYBEG1Qswy1yXJf879nA4cjkNI0H+FzoUyuRodPA5eqZwFONG34i30ccOxeKFUy flNe1szqsgLdvXwKCj6zjTXODHV9M46gZPCLlYKCGTYO8S0aOAvJzRfD0w+1XcGIsxLUw/sYl5sM 9n0yjkoSUDOByrijwRRiAq13NhqLJYB3ACazrgN2bIwanyJQKXhHAJPRPQruEaCJP2Shy4DJ2As+ FQjJZH7AZIy6w0pQiiRYAh8nTEZHYDfRqSDeB5OXq4EEcAC4NocvoBl4+n1cyl54nyLRNA3iIwRP wNGFOK1g1Gz8jNfaCjdtqJLm2LXuqMc+50cDIJQpr6X0OHa4X58ULAw03QbRd7GUiG/K04mj0bNB xQhwJkEsJiZ1Bbgb6CnF79cBE+jwF91qniOCP3fghUFKxOShjIATw/wOfIQTg39LpFHtxhlKywAA AABJRU5ErkJggg== In-Reply-To: (Kevin Greiner's message of "Sat, 10 May 2003 09:43:46 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52489 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52489 On 10 mai 2003, kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com wrote: >Gaute B Strokkenes writes: >True. I personally don't use gnus with my mail so I'm coming up to >speed by making foolish statements :). > >>What I would like is a variable gnus-agent-queue-mail such that: >> >>always -> always queue mail that is sent, regardless of plugged >>status. nil -> never queue mail that is sent, regardless of plugged >>status. otherwise, queue mail that is sent if and only if gnus is >>unplugged. > >Yes. Sounds perfectly reasonable. My concerns are: 1) If I do this >for mail sending, will someone else have an equally valid argument >for why backend X should also have its own "obey gnus-plugged" >configuration setting? Well, I suppose it should really. But as you say below, "already voted done". >2) Just how more complex must the configuration get before it is >sufficient? Buwahaha, it is never enough. There are certainly a few things that can be simplified and streamlined, but they're out of reach of my comptence for now, unfortunately. >BTW, I'm actually convincing myself that gnus-agent-queue-mail is the >reasonable thing to do. Well, I'm having a stab at implementing it now... >>>I think that it would be better to change the code such that the >>>plugged status per server can be configured to either 1) always >>>plugged, 2) never plugged , or 3) plugged when gnus-plugged is t. >> >>That might be useful too. > >Already voted done. My interpretation of the gnus-plugged >documentation was incorrect. -- Big Gaute http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gs234/ As President I have to go vacuum my coin collection!