From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40369 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Florian Weimer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gpg-ring.el/gpg.el? Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:10:42 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87g07d3b65.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> References: <87k7wqjzvo.fsf@mclinux.com> <87lmh6ifck.fsf@mclinux.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175931 543 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:52:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 22900 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2001 11:00:33 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2001 11:00:32 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1653CV-0006PI-00; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:59:55 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:59:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA12464 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:58:45 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 22799 invoked by alias); 17 Nov 2001 10:58:57 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 22794 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2001 10:58:56 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.s.netic.de (HELO mail.netic.de) (212.9.160.11) by gnus.org with SMTP; 17 Nov 2001 10:58:56 -0000 Original-Received: by mail.netic.de (Smail3.2.0.111/mail.s.netic.de) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remoteip 212.9.163.60 via remotehost mail.enyo.de with esmtp for mail.gnus.org id m1653B5-001X4DC; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:58:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (helo=deneb.enyo.de ident=exim) by mail.enyo.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 1652ze-0000of-00 for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:46:38 +0100 Original-Received: from fw by deneb.enyo.de with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 1653Mw-0000bk-00 for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:10:42 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:37:17 +0100") Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40369 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40369 Simon Josefsson writes: > Josh Huber writes: > >> Simon Josefsson writes: >> >>> FSF doesn't have papers for it. >> >> Bummer, is the author going to do it, or what? > > I think lawyers are involved. I don't know, the FSF never told the copyright holder what they were doing internally. There are some rumors. Currently, we (University of Stuttgart) hope to assign copyright (well, the non-exclusive usufruct of a copyright) to FSF Europe, German branch, but before this can happen, FSF U.S. and FSF Europe have to agree on the modus operandi. If you want to have gpg.el in the GNU Emacs or GNU Privacy Guard distribution, and you are familiar with the internal structure of the FSF U.S., you might want to ask the right person there to continue negotiations. After proposing a draft contract and convincing RMS that German copyright law is substantially different from U.S. law, the negotiations stopped, and we have never heard anything back from the FSF U.S. (As an additional benefit, I'm able to work again on gpg.el and gpg-ring.el, a security audit of the Gnus RFC 3156 support is planned, you'll get a few security fixes for GNU Emacs on HP-UX and AIX, and perhaps a few GnuPG changes, although the latter are probably OBE now.)