* WAIS back-end? that understands mail?
@ 1999-12-07 22:37 Chris Shenton
1999-12-07 22:51 ` Kai Großjohann
1999-12-07 22:53 ` Bud Rogers
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From: Chris Shenton @ 1999-12-07 22:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Since I can never remember which folder I put mail in, I use WAIS to
index my stored mail every night. I can search with the "M-x wais"
function that came with FreeWAIS-sf and it basically works but doesn't
understand it's really mail, rendering it as a flat file.
I'd really like to be able to is see the results as a *Summary* buffer
and then step through each one, rendering as mail, since that's what
it is. Being able to reply, forward and the like would be a winner.
Extra points if I could walk through other WAIS archives in a similar
manner, like random saved text files, a WAISified Dictionary, etc.
Any pointers?
(I'm using gnus v5.8.2).
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* Re: WAIS back-end? that understands mail?
1999-12-07 22:37 WAIS back-end? that understands mail? Chris Shenton
@ 1999-12-07 22:51 ` Kai Großjohann
1999-12-08 15:07 ` BrYan P. Johnson
1999-12-07 22:53 ` Bud Rogers
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 1999-12-07 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
There is nnir.el which can work with freeWAIS-sf. Btw, all the other
people who try to use nnir.el seem to fail at installing freeWAIS-sf
-- there must be a problem somewhere. If only I knew where the
problem is :-(
The comment near the beginning of nnir.el contains a *.fmt file which
you might wish to use with fwsf.
Sadly, currently nnir.el only works for one-file-per-msg backends, ie
nnml and nnmh.
ftp://ls6-ftp.cs.uni-dortmund.de/pub/src/emacs/
kai
--
A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.
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* Re: WAIS back-end? that understands mail?
1999-12-07 22:51 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 1999-12-08 15:07 ` BrYan P. Johnson
1999-12-08 16:29 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: BrYan P. Johnson @ 1999-12-08 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> On 07 Dec 1999 23:51:16 +0100, Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) said:
> There is nnir.el which can work with freeWAIS-sf. Btw, all the
> other people who try to use nnir.el seem to fail at installing
> freeWAIS-sf -- there must be a problem somewhere. If only I
> knew where the problem is :-(
It wouldn't compile for me until I tried it without using nm. In the
incredibly extensive interactive configure program, it asks a great
deal of questions, and one is whether or not to use nm to extract
symbols. When I stopped answering yes there, it compiled.
BrYan
--
That's why they have the sled and dogs.
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* Re: WAIS back-end? that understands mail?
1999-12-08 15:07 ` BrYan P. Johnson
@ 1999-12-08 16:29 ` Kai Großjohann
1999-12-08 17:19 ` BrYan P. Johnson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 1999-12-08 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
"BrYan P. Johnson" <bilko@onebabyzebra.com> writes:
> [...] It wouldn't compile for me until I tried it without using
> nm.[...]
What was the default it offered? Normally, the defaults should work,
and I usually just keep typing RET except where it asks for
directories. But then, I've only tried Solaris...
kai
--
A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.
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* Re: WAIS back-end? that understands mail?
1999-12-08 16:29 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 1999-12-08 17:19 ` BrYan P. Johnson
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From: BrYan P. Johnson @ 1999-12-08 17:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> "BrYan P. Johnson" <bilko@onebabyzebra.com> writes:
>
> > [...] It wouldn't compile for me until I tried it without using
> > nm.[...]
>
> What was the default it offered? Normally, the defaults should work,
> and I usually just keep typing RET except where it asks for
> directories. But then, I've only tried Solaris...
>
It defaulted to wanting to use nm. Perhaps the linux nm doesn't work
as Freewais expects.
BrYan
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* Re: WAIS back-end? that understands mail?
1999-12-07 22:37 WAIS back-end? that understands mail? Chris Shenton
1999-12-07 22:51 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 1999-12-07 22:53 ` Bud Rogers
1999-12-08 14:07 ` Kai Großjohann
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bud Rogers @ 1999-12-07 22:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
Chris Shenton <chris@shenton.org> writes:
> Since I can never remember which folder I put mail in, I use WAIS to
> index my stored mail every night. I can search with the "M-x wais"
> function that came with FreeWAIS-sf and it basically works but doesn't
> understand it's really mail, rendering it as a flat file.
>
> I'd really like to be able to is see the results as a *Summary* buffer
> and then step through each one, rendering as mail, since that's what
> it is. Being able to reply, forward and the like would be a winner.
Have a look at Kai Großjohann's nnir.el. I use glimpse rather than wais,
but it does both. From Kai's comments:
;; What does it do? Well, it allows you to index your mail using some
;; search engine (freeWAIS-sf and Glimpse are currently supported),
;; then type `G G' in the Group buffer and issue a query to the search
;; engine. You will then get a buffer which shows all articles
;; matching the query, sorted by Retrieval Status Value (score).
;; When looking at the retrieval result (in the Summary buffer) you
;; can type `G T' (aka M-x gnus-summary-nnir-goto-thread RET) on an
;; article. You will be teleported into the group this article came
;; from, showing the thread this article is part of. (See below for
;; restrictions.)
Good stuff, Maynard. Recommended.
ls6-ftp.cs.uni-dortmund.de:/pub/src/emacs
>
> Extra points if I could walk through other WAIS archives in a similar
> manner, like random saved text files, a WAISified Dictionary, etc.
Dunno about that. Kai?
--
Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net>
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* Re: WAIS back-end? that understands mail?
1999-12-07 22:53 ` Bud Rogers
@ 1999-12-08 14:07 ` Kai Großjohann
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 1999-12-08 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net> writes:
> Chris Shenton <chris@shenton.org> writes:
>
> > Extra points if I could walk through other WAIS archives in a similar
> > manner, like random saved text files, a WAISified Dictionary, etc.
>
> Dunno about that. Kai?
Hm. Hm. I think it just _might_ be possible, given that there is
nneething. But what article numbers does nneething use? The idea
might be this: you create an nneething backend with the files you
want, and then you tell nnir.el that the backend to use is that
nneething backend you just created. I think that there will be some
ad-hockery required to deal with the article numbers, though. Hm.
Any takers?
(I've got to remember to make nnir.el be able to deal with more than
one backend.)
kai
--
A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.
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