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From: Bob Newell <bobnewell@bobnewell.net>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Aliases with mailing lists
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 11:28:32 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7bps7i7.fsf@emailmessageidheader.nil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y251y1ej.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Fri, 03 Dec 2021 10:43:48 -0800")


Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> I'm also a little unclear of what situation you're seeing exactly: do
> you mean that expanding names in the "To/From/Cc" headers triggers an
> alias switch, but expanding group names in the "Newsgroups" header
> doesn't? But the only place `expand-abbrev' is used in header completion
> is in the "To/From/Cc" header, so I don't really understand how the two
> situations differ.

I think I inadvertently left out an important piece of
information. BBDB is in use here. I create my own mailing
lists using the 'mail-alias' BBDB field.

The problem comes up when I enter a BBDB defined mail-alias in
the To: field and press the spacebar to expand that into the
full list of BBDB addresses that have the mail-alias in
question. The list appears, of course, but
gnu-alias-determine-identity doesn't run, and so my From:
address (etc.) isn't altered, when in fact based on one or more of
the mail-alias entries, I may want it changed in accord with
my gnus alias rules.

The BBDB mail-alias expansion takes place in
mail-abbrev-expand-wrapper in mailabbrevs.el which is not part
of Gnus. That's where I did some horribly shameful hacking.

Everything is fine with simple tab completion of a
(non-mail-alias) regular email address in the To: field.

> I also don't know what hook gnus-alias uses to do its alias switching;
> if we knew that then this would be easier.

This happens with tab completion with the following line of code:

(add-hook 'bbdb-complete-mail-hook 'gnus-alias-determine-identity)

However this mechanism isn't used with mail-alias expansion.

> If your Emacs is recent and you have the option
> `message-expand-name-standard-ui', try setting it to t and see what that
> does.

I'll look into it. Thank you for your reply.

-- 
Bob Newell
Honolulu, Hawai`i

- Via GNU/Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-03 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-03  1:07 Bob Newell
2021-12-03 17:43 ` Bob Newell
2021-12-03 18:43   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-03 20:45     ` Emanuel Berg
2021-12-04 12:57       ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2021-12-04 13:17         ` Emanuel Berg
2021-12-05 12:19           ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2021-12-05 18:15             ` Emanuel Berg
2021-12-06  4:56               ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2021-12-06  5:37                 ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2021-12-03 21:28     ` Bob Newell [this message]
2021-12-03 22:21       ` Bob Newell
2021-12-04  0:38         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-05 11:42     ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-03 18:12 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-12-05 12:42   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-05 18:12     ` Emanuel Berg
2021-12-05 20:42       ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-05 21:30         ` Emanuel Berg
2021-12-05 22:07           ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-06  2:29             ` Emanuel Berg
2021-12-06 11:05           ` Emanuel Berg
2021-12-06 17:53 Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-06 18:40 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-12-06 18:46   ` Emanuel Berg
2021-12-07 11:22 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-07 12:41 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-08 17:46   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-09 16:59     ` Eric S Fraga

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