From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5390 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2021 08:37:56 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Sep 2021 08:37:56 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNA8Y-00FulR-Bv for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 03:37:54 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1mNA8X-002FQh-V3 for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 03:37:53 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1mNA8V-002FQZ-Qx for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 03:37:51 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNA8T-00FulA-1X for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 03:37:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tCnNEsnRABYhbH5tTxmWlHJp8Hjc9l2Yrrb0wUE5gNY=; b=sUvGrlvqv0/Gkqpziu5Ie8QwNR PMx99HKGo6GcFG2KCcG9IEZAiGt8eNhC/Ec9NRVO0IrkVlw6so07mxD28nhYUDxuplkgXexDLf8MB beBdNKAJX+saw0LJuXCwMMQ8pXz/kCzyRrEQ5Dc9Dz8TwxN2WOdv5OigB1VmPTCHRGgg=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNA8K-0007vu-Op for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 10:37:43 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNA8I-00008S-Dw for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 10:37:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Colin Baxter Subject: Re: gnus-extra-headers Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 09:37:31 +0100 Message-ID: <87h7eyt7zo.fsf@yandex.com> References: <87sfyohftb.fsf@yandex.com> <87sfymy6ck.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y28e6wr1.fsf@yandex.com> <875yvhldf3.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnnwv1zy.fsf@yandex.com> <87wnnwid8l.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bl57to59.fsf@yandex.com> <87sfyiidmf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lf4atbu0.fsf@yandex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VJwdjJZgAwIdpUjQ7UM5SQHaVcw= X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T X-Message-My-Extra-Message: 8-) We are the only ones here =?utf-8?B?8J+YuiDwn5i6IPCfmLo=?= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== List-ID: Precedence: bulk 1. Remove all ~/.gnus.el and related files from system. 2. emacs-28.0.50 -Q 3. C-h load-history 4. Search for loaded gnus libraries. 5. 2 matches for "gnus" in buffer: *Help* 3994: (defun . gnus-batch-kill) 3995: (defun . gnus-set-sorted-intersection) No nndiary loaded. 6. C-h gnus-extra-headers 7. (X-Diary-Time-Zone X-Diary-Dow X-Diary-Year X-Diary-Month X-Diary-Dom X-Diary-Hour X-Diary-Minute To Cc Keywords Gcc Newsgroups X-GM-LABELS) Original value was (To Cc Keywords Gcc Newsgroups X-GM-LABELS) 8. C-h load-history 9. Search for loaded gnus libraries. 10. 4874 matches in 3654 lines for "gnus" in buffer: *Help* 94 matches in 65 lines for "nndiary" in buffer: *Help* It appears that finding the value of gnus-extra-headers by means of C-h loads various gnus and nndiary libraries. We cannot find the "original value" of gnus-extra-headers because we cannot avoid loading nndiary libraries. Is this expected? Best wishes,