From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,NICE_REPLY_C,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29097 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2020 19:55:21 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Aug 2020 19:55:21 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1k3lyy-005exf-1m; Thu, 06 Aug 2020 14:55:20 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1k3lyt-005evg-Vm for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 06 Aug 2020 14:55:16 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1k3lys-003uXO-CO for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 06 Aug 2020 14:55:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References :Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hOqhC/1YiOJWBJUvVKARdy8qskJf3LmmDZz+uwW1xkk=; b=WvzbyaV7EMBbkyz0UBWgR0ULX5 rFE2fDoSjfMNgSY7YfN3Jx2GdLsL9UStVqcMqzC83HdDn7wJqOwoDXsBq4O+YymaPtehfNpc54442 RE21bRxiB9+S19YfHimdOOqDJsE18NCMJ8Hb7zXDguECUMYRsiwtjaQJSbcKiuDJ8cxQ=; Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214] helo=ciao.gmane.io) by quimby with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k3lym-0005RH-4Q for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2020 21:55:10 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k3lyi-0003FV-Qn for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2020 21:55:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: =?utf-8?Q?Adam_Sj=C3=B8gren?= Subject: Re: on downloading too much data when there's no news Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 21:54:58 +0200 Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark Message-ID: <87h7tfh7n1.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> References: <864kpfoo9u.fsf@protonmail.com> <878serd0a1.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1NjVT04oeJUiBcgwkXTL7i8wiRU= OpenPGP: id=476630590A231909B0A0961A49D0746121BDE416; url=https://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc Mail-Follow-Up-To: never X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97,Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR Precedence: bulk Adam writes: > But now we are deeper into how Gnus works than what I know :-) It looks like you can configure Gnus to use GROUP instead of LIST ACTIVE: ,----[ C-h v nntp-server-list-active-group RET ] | nntp-server-list-active-group is a variable defined in ‘nntp.el’. | Its value is nil | | Documentation: | If nil, then always use GROUP instead of LIST ACTIVE. | This is usually slower, but on misconfigured servers that don’t | update their active files often, this can help. | | This is a Gnus server variable. See Info node ‘(gnus)Select Methods’. `---- So maybe try something similar to: (nntp "fidonet" (nntp-server-list-active-group nil) (nntp-address "news.fidonet.fi")) in your secondary select methods. For me that helps, ngrep shows this when fetching news, subscribed to fidonews: asjo@tullinup:~$ sudo ngrep -q -Wbyline host news.fidonet.fi interface: wlp82s0 (192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0) filter: ( host news.fidonet.fi ) and ((ip || ip6) || (vlan && (ip || ip6))) T 2a06:4001:d06f:0:909a:cc99:d2b8:3fa6:45732 -> 2001:41d0:401:3100::1030:119 [AP] #1 GROUP fidonews. T 2001:41d0:401:3100::1030:119 -> 2a06:4001:d06f:0:909a:cc99:d2b8:3fa6:45732 [AP] #2 211 3290 1 3290 fidonews Group selected. Best regards, Adam -- "Subdued flamboyance" Adam Sjøgren asjo@koldfront.dk