From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/82533 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Possible bugs (gnus-demon and switching modes when composing messages) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:12:34 +0800 Message-ID: <87haoiyuu5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <874nm7wa9d.fsf@riseup.net> <87zk3yqg7z.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87ehl1wo79.fsf@riseup.net> <87hapxpctm.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <877gpn5s6b.fsf@riseup.net> <874nkr6x3e.fsf@rss01.mhs.man.ac.uk> <87haojoazn.fsf@riseup.net> <873903z0vk.fsf@descartes.dancingfrog.hopto.org> <877gpeobsa.fsf@riseup.net> <877gpejipj.fsf@riseup.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353568187 3330 80.91.229.3 (22 Nov 2012 07:09:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:09:47 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M30799@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Nov 22 08:09:58 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TbQv6-0002Ju-JP for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:09:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1TbQuN-0002KK-Cq; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:09:11 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1TbQu5-0002Jv-Ig for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:08:53 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TbQu3-0007vN-LB for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:08:52 -0600 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TbQu1-0005Zk-KU for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:08:49 +0100 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TbQu9-0001RC-Bs for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:08:57 +0100 Original-Received: from 114.250.108.240 ([114.250.108.240]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:08:57 +0100 Original-Received: from eric by 114.250.108.240 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:08:57 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 114.250.108.240 User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6vwdLPsQmT9J4crkp0Cf8/hQQsU= X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:82533 Archived-At: Sergio Durigan Junior writes: > On Wednesday, November 21 2012, I wrote: > >> On Wednesday, November 21 2012, Matt Ford wrote: >> >>> It might. To be clear when setting 'consider-all-articles' to 't', when >>> using nntp groups it produced unwanted behaviour. Every time I went to >>> a newsgroup it downloaded every single article ever posted every time >>> (regardless if I'd all ready done so). And some newsgroups are big. >> >> Ah, ok, I know what you mean now. `gnus-agent-consider-all-articles' >> is 'nil' for me since the beginning, and I didn't change it. So I think >> this is not the problem... > > Well, after more research on that topic, I found this: > > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/11608 > > In short: the author of the thread was complaining more or less about > the same thing, and his problem was that he was using > `gnus-fetch-old-headers', setting it to `t'. > > I do the same thing here in .gnus, and then I started to do some > experiments. Now, Gnus opens the newsgroup much faster, of course. It > doesn't have to download everything from news.gmane.org, only some > messages (I set `gnus-fetch-old-headers' to 500 specifically on gmane > groups). > > So, my question now is: what do you guys use? Do you also use > `gnus-fetch-old-headers'? I set it to 'some, and it does just what I want: enters groups quickly, and shows me complete threads (including old read messages) for any unread messages. Eric