* Gmane and mail-followup-to
@ 2011-05-27 21:00 Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-28 10:41 ` Julien Danjou
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-27 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
After trying this unsuccessfully several times, I hope someone here can
help me.
How do I tell Gnus that when reading mailing lists as Gmane newsgroups,
followups to my posts should always go to the list and never to me? I
want to set reply-to, mail-followup-to, mail-copies-to, and whatever
else it takes to convince the world I don't need an extra copy of their
e-mails. I don't know the full list of things I need to change and when
I've tried it in the past, it always ends up disrespected by some people
and not others...
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67258 is a good
starting point.
The problem is that Gmane newsgroups don't advertise the list address.
So I'd have to build a static list, which is a pain, to use the existing
message.el facilities, plus those don't address all the issues above.
Is there an easier way?
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-27 21:00 Gmane and mail-followup-to Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-05-28 10:41 ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-28 16:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Julien Danjou @ 2011-05-28 10:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ted Zlatanov; +Cc: ding
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On Fri, May 27 2011, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> How do I tell Gnus that when reading mailing lists as Gmane newsgroups,
> followups to my posts should always go to the list and never to me? I
> want to set reply-to, mail-followup-to, mail-copies-to, and whatever
> else it takes to convince the world I don't need an extra copy of their
> e-mails. I don't know the full list of things I need to change and when
> I've tried it in the past, it always ends up disrespected by some people
> and not others...
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67258 is a good
> starting point.
You need to set Mail-Followup-To to the list.
This is done by setting message-subscribed-* variables. When sending a
message to such an address, message-mode wille set the MFU header
correctly.
I rarely¹ had problem with MFU. There's still a chance some MUA does not
respect it when doing reply-to-all or such an action, but in practice,
it worked quite well for me so far (a decade or so).
¹ I can't remember I had one actually.
--
Julien Danjou
❱ http://julien.danjou.info
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-28 10:41 ` Julien Danjou
@ 2011-05-28 16:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-29 12:02 ` Julien Danjou
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-28 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Sat, 28 May 2011 12:41:35 +0200 Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> wrote:
JD> On Fri, May 27 2011, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>> How do I tell Gnus that when reading mailing lists as Gmane newsgroups,
>> followups to my posts should always go to the list and never to me? I
>> want to set reply-to, mail-followup-to, mail-copies-to, and whatever
>> else it takes to convince the world I don't need an extra copy of their
>> e-mails. I don't know the full list of things I need to change and when
>> I've tried it in the past, it always ends up disrespected by some people
>> and not others...
>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67258 is a good
>> starting point.
JD> You need to set Mail-Followup-To to the list.
JD> This is done by setting message-subscribed-* variables. When sending a
JD> message to such an address, message-mode wille set the MFU header
JD> correctly.
I don't know the list address from a Gmane newsgroup so I can't set the
message-* variables appropriately. Do you mean there's a way without
knowing the list address?
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-28 16:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-05-29 12:02 ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-30 12:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Julien Danjou @ 2011-05-29 12:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ted Zlatanov; +Cc: ding
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On Sat, May 28 2011, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> I don't know the list address from a Gmane newsgroup so I can't set the
> message-* variables appropriately. Do you mean there's a way without
> knowing the list address?
Oh yeah. I see the problem.
I'm sorry, but I think you're screwed in that case.
The only solution I can think of if that GMane should do it for you.
For example, you'd set:
Followup-To: name.of.the.newsgroup
And GMane would be smart and replace it with:
Mail-Followup-To: listaddress@example.com
in your message when sending it to the list. Maybe you should propose or
discuss this with GMane admins. Maybe it is even already there?! :)
--
Julien Danjou
❱ http://julien.danjou.info
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-29 12:02 ` Julien Danjou
@ 2011-05-30 12:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 12:23 ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-30 12:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
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3 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-30 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Sun, 29 May 2011 14:02:16 +0200 Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> wrote:
JD> The only solution I can think of if that GMane should do it for you.
JD> For example, you'd set:
JD> Followup-To: name.of.the.newsgroup
JD> And GMane would be smart and replace it with:
JD> Mail-Followup-To: listaddress@example.com
JD> in your message when sending it to the list. Maybe you should propose or
JD> discuss this with GMane admins. Maybe it is even already there?! :)
Let's try that. This article has Followup-To set.
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-29 12:02 ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-30 12:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-05-30 12:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 12:22 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 12:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
3 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-30 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Sun, 29 May 2011 14:02:16 +0200 Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> wrote:
JD> The only solution I can think of if that GMane should do it for you.
JD> For example, you'd set:
JD> Followup-To: name.of.the.newsgroup
JD> And GMane would be smart and replace it with:
JD> Mail-Followup-To: listaddress@example.com
JD> in your message when sending it to the list. Maybe you should propose or
JD> discuss this with GMane admins. Maybe it is even already there?! :)
On gmane.discuss Lars mentioned (in 2003)
`gnus-mailing-list-followup-to' but that returns nil on
gmane.emacs.gnus.general articles so I don't think it's ideal.
Let's try the Mail-Copies-To header set to "never" as well. This
article has it.
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-29 12:02 ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-30 12:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 12:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-05-30 12:22 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 12:31 ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-30 12:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 12:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
3 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Robert Pluim @ 2011-05-30 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:
> On Sat, May 28 2011, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>
>> I don't know the list address from a Gmane newsgroup so I can't set the
>> message-* variables appropriately. Do you mean there's a way without
>> knowing the list address?
>
> Oh yeah. I see the problem.
>
> I'm sorry, but I think you're screwed in that case.
>
> The only solution I can think of if that GMane should do it for you.
> For example, you'd set:
>
> Followup-To: name.of.the.newsgroup
>
> And GMane would be smart and replace it with:
>
> Mail-Followup-To: listaddress@example.com
>
> in your message when sending it to the list. Maybe you should propose or
> discuss this with GMane admins. Maybe it is even already there?! :)
List-ID ? You'd need to replace the first '.' with '@', but that's
trivial ;)
Robert
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 12:22 ` Robert Pluim
@ 2011-05-30 12:31 ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-30 12:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 12:39 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 12:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Julien Danjou @ 2011-05-30 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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On Mon, May 30 2011, Robert Pluim wrote:
> List-ID ? You'd need to replace the first '.' with '@', but that's
> trivial ;)
I don't understand what you're saying, but you seem to post via GMane
and have a correct MFU, so maybe you can help Ted. :-D
--
Julien Danjou
❱ http://julien.danjou.info
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 12:31 ` Julien Danjou
@ 2011-05-30 12:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 13:05 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 12:39 ` Robert Pluim
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-30 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Mon, 30 May 2011 14:31:40 +0200 Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> wrote:
JD> On Mon, May 30 2011, Robert Pluim wrote:
>> List-ID ? You'd need to replace the first '.' with '@', but that's
>> trivial ;)
JD> I don't understand what you're saying, but you seem to post via GMane
JD> and have a correct MFU, so maybe you can help Ted. :-D
He was saying to use Gmane's List-ID header, which is a rewritten
version of the list address.
But the right approach is to use Mail-Copies-To: never
Gmane will rewrite that to make the Mail-Followup-To point to only the
list. On the Gnus side nothing is needed except adding that header.
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 12:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-05-30 13:05 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 13:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: Robert Pluim @ 2011-05-30 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> On Mon, 30 May 2011 14:31:40 +0200 Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> wrote:
>
> JD> On Mon, May 30 2011, Robert Pluim wrote:
>>> List-ID ? You'd need to replace the first '.' with '@', but that's
>>> trivial ;)
>
> JD> I don't understand what you're saying, but you seem to post via GMane
> JD> and have a correct MFU, so maybe you can help Ted. :-D
>
> He was saying to use Gmane's List-ID header, which is a rewritten
> version of the list address.
>
> But the right approach is to use Mail-Copies-To: never
>
> Gmane will rewrite that to make the Mail-Followup-To point to only the
> list. On the Gnus side nothing is needed except adding that header.
For what it's worth, I've had Mail-Copies-To: never for my Gmane
postings basically forever, and people have still managed to reply to
the 'From' (I suspect they weren't using Gnus though).
Robert
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 13:05 ` Robert Pluim
@ 2011-05-30 13:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 14:58 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-30 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:05:38 +0200 Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:
RP> For what it's worth, I've had Mail-Copies-To: never for my Gmane
RP> postings basically forever, and people have still managed to reply to
RP> the 'From' (I suspect they weren't using Gnus though).
Some clients only respect Reply-To, so I asked on gmane.discuss that it
also be set when the Mail-Followup-To header is set. Let's see if Lars
is feeling energetic this week :)
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 12:31 ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-30 12:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-05-30 12:39 ` Robert Pluim
1 sibling, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Robert Pluim @ 2011-05-30 12:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:
> On Mon, May 30 2011, Robert Pluim wrote:
>
>> List-ID ? You'd need to replace the first '.' with '@', but that's
>> trivial ;)
>
> I don't understand what you're saying, but you seem to post via GMane
> and have a correct MFU, so maybe you can help Ted. :-D
When I read via gmane, the messages have:
List-ID: <ding.gnus.org>
in the headers. As you noted, I post via Gmane, using nntp, but I've
never set any variables related to MFU, so the fact that mine is correct
is something being done by Gmane.
Robert
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 12:22 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 12:31 ` Julien Danjou
@ 2011-05-30 12:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 11:58 ` Richard Riley
2011-05-30 12:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
1 sibling, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-30 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Mon, 30 May 2011 14:22:59 +0200 Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:
RP> List-ID ? You'd need to replace the first '.' with '@', but that's
RP> trivial ;)
(also setting Mail-Copies-To to never in this followup)
Yeah, I'll do that if Mail-Copies-To: never doesn't work. I already
know Followup-To doesn't work. The problems with List-ID are: it's not
an explicit contract with Gmane, so it could stop working some day; and
it requires some computation on the client side, so only programmable
clients like Gnus could do it easily.
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 12:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-05-30 11:58 ` Richard Riley
2011-05-30 15:00 ` Steinar Bang
2011-05-30 16:34 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2011-05-30 12:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
1 sibling, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Richard Riley @ 2011-05-30 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> On Mon, 30 May 2011 14:22:59 +0200 Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> RP> List-ID ? You'd need to replace the first '.' with '@', but that's
> RP> trivial ;)
>
> (also setting Mail-Copies-To to never in this followup)
>
> Yeah, I'll do that if Mail-Copies-To: never doesn't work. I already
> know Followup-To doesn't work. The problems with List-ID are: it's not
> an explicit contract with Gmane, so it could stop working some day; and
> it requires some computation on the client side, so only programmable
> clients like Gnus could do it easily.
>
> Ted
>
How does one set up gnus to reply to only ding@nognus when using the
mailing list? Is it totally dependant on how the op author set their
followup etc?
I prefer to use the mailing list : simply set up gmail filters (server
side) to apply a label to all posts from certain mailing lists and
archive the original then I have an emacs-gnus imap folder for the gnus
mailing list.
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 11:58 ` Richard Riley
@ 2011-05-30 15:00 ` Steinar Bang
2011-05-30 15:11 ` Richard Riley
2011-05-30 16:34 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2011-05-30 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com>:
> How does one set up gnus to reply to only ding@nognus when using the
> mailing list? Is it totally dependant on how the op author set their
> followup etc?
If you filter group traffic to a mail backend folder, you can set the
address of the mailing list, in the group parameters, so that it will be
used if you do a followup to an article.
Is it something like this you are looking for?
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 15:00 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2011-05-30 15:11 ` Richard Riley
2011-05-30 20:38 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: Richard Riley @ 2011-05-30 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
>>>>>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com>:
>
>> How does one set up gnus to reply to only ding@nognus when using the
>> mailing list? Is it totally dependant on how the op author set their
>> followup etc?
>
> If you filter group traffic to a mail backend folder, you can set the
> address of the mailing list, in the group parameters, so that it will be
> used if you do a followup to an article.
>
> Is it something like this you are looking for?
>
Oh of course. I use posting-styles too so should have thought about
that!
Thanks.
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 15:11 ` Richard Riley
@ 2011-05-30 20:38 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2011-05-30 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com>:
> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
>>>>>>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com>:
>> If you filter group traffic to a mail backend folder, you can set the
>> address of the mailing list, in the group parameters, so that it will be
>> used if you do a followup to an article.
>> Is it something like this you are looking for?
> Oh of course. I use posting-styles too so should have thought about
> that!
Didn't have the time to find the correct parameter to set, but now I've
looked in my own nnimap folders for mailing lists, and I'm using the
to-address group parameter.
If you customize group parameters with `G c' on top of the group, in the
group buffer, the to-address parameter is the first setting,... or at
least it was, when I tried...
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 11:58 ` Richard Riley
2011-05-30 15:00 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2011-05-30 16:34 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2011-05-31 9:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: Jason L Tibbitts III @ 2011-05-30 16:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Riley; +Cc: ding
>>>>> "RR" == Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
RR> How does one set up gnus to reply to only ding@nognus when using the
RR> mailing list?
You folks do know that you can ask the mailing list software to provide
messages to you with a Reply-To: header, right? It's a religious issue
so it's left up to the preferences of each user. The default is merely
to not have one.
Send "set replyto" in the body of a message to
ding-requests@lists.math.uh.edu if you want one to be added to your
messages.
You can ask for "[ding]" to appear in the subject header as well with
"set prefix".
And also note that the list messages always have a List-ID: header; it
doesn't come from gmane.
- J<
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 16:34 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
@ 2011-05-31 9:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 19:09 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-31 9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Mon, 30 May 2011 11:34:52 -0500 "Jason L Tibbitts III" <tibbs@math.uh.edu> wrote:
JLT> You folks do know that you can ask the mailing list software to provide
JLT> messages to you with a Reply-To: header, right? It's a religious issue
JLT> so it's left up to the preferences of each user. The default is merely
JLT> to not have one.
JLT> Send "set replyto" in the body of a message to
JLT> ding-requests@lists.math.uh.edu if you want one to be added to your
JLT> messages.
My question was how to do it through Gmane, when I don't know the
address of the list. Since the posting account is not me (but the From
header is), would "set replyto" work anyhow?
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-31 9:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-05-31 19:09 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 20:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-05-31 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> My question was how to do it through Gmane, when I don't know the
> address of the list. Since the posting account is not me (but the From
> header is), would "set replyto" work anyhow?
If you put
Mail-Copies-To: never
in your message, the Gmane news-to-mail script will add a
Mail-Followup-To: <list address>
to the message it sends to the mailing list.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-31 19:09 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-05-31 20:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 20:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 20:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-31 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, 31 May 2011 21:09:01 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> My question was how to do it through Gmane, when I don't know the
>> address of the list. Since the posting account is not me (but the From
>> header is), would "set replyto" work anyhow?
LMI> If you put
LMI> Mail-Copies-To: never
LMI> in your message, the Gmane news-to-mail script will add a
LMI> Mail-Followup-To: <list address>
LMI> to the message it sends to the mailing list.
I also want a way to set the Reply-To header. Could you add something
or is this not to your liking?
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-31 20:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-05-31 20:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 20:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-05-31 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> I also want a way to set the Reply-To header. Could you add something
> or is this not to your liking?
Gmane doesn't touch the Reply-To header you're adding.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-31 20:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 20:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-05-31 20:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 20:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-05-31 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> I also want a way to set the Reply-To header. Could you add something
> or is this not to your liking?
Oh, you meant a Reply-To header pointing at the mailing list? Uhm...
I'm not sure I like that idea...
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-31 20:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-05-31 20:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 20:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-05-31 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Oh, you meant a Reply-To header pointing at the mailing list? Uhm...
> I'm not sure I like that idea...
On the other hand, I'm not sure I dislike it either.
I could just add a new header, like,
Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes
that would make the news-to-mail scripts rewrite that to point to the
list?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-31 20:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-05-31 20:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 20:47 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-31 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, 31 May 2011 22:34:15 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> I could just add a new header, like,
LMI> Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes
LMI> that would make the news-to-mail scripts rewrite that to point to the
LMI> list?
That would work. Let me be anti-social, is all I'm saying.
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-31 20:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-05-31 20:47 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-01 0:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-05-31 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> That would work. Let me be anti-social, is all I'm saying.
I've now added this. But not checked whether it works. :-)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-31 20:47 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-06-01 0:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 0:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-06-01 0:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, 31 May 2011 22:47:51 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> That would work. Let me be anti-social, is all I'm saying.
LMI> I've now added this. But not checked whether it works. :-)
Consider this a test.
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-06-01 0:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-06-01 0:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-06-01 0:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding; +Cc: gmane-discuss
On Tue, 31 May 2011 19:23:02 -0500 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
TZ> On Tue, 31 May 2011 22:47:51 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>>> That would work. Let me be anti-social, is all I'm saying.
LMI> I've now added this. But not checked whether it works. :-)
TZ> Consider this a test.
Tested:
(setq gnus-posting-styles
'(
...
("gmane"
(Gmane-Reply-To-List "yes")
(Mail-Copies-To "never"))))
That sets the Reply-To to the list. Cross-posted to gmane.discuss since
we had this discussion there too.
Thank you
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-30 12:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 11:58 ` Richard Riley
@ 2011-05-30 12:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-30 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Mon, 30 May 2011 07:34:55 -0500 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
TZ> On Mon, 30 May 2011 14:22:59 +0200 Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:
RP> List-ID ? You'd need to replace the first '.' with '@', but that's
RP> trivial ;)
TZ> (also setting Mail-Copies-To to never in this followup)
TZ> Yeah, I'll do that if Mail-Copies-To: never doesn't work. I already
TZ> know Followup-To doesn't work. The problems with List-ID are: it's not
TZ> an explicit contract with Gmane, so it could stop working some day; and
TZ> it requires some computation on the client side, so only programmable
TZ> clients like Gnus could do it easily.
And here's the proper Gnus solution, assuming only Gmane groups have the
word "gmane":
#+begin_src lisp
(setq gnus-posting-styles '(
;;; other things omitted
("gmane"
(Mail-Copies-To "never"))))
#+end_src
Thanks for all the help :)
Ted
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* Re: Gmane and mail-followup-to
2011-05-29 12:02 ` Julien Danjou
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2011-05-30 12:22 ` Robert Pluim
@ 2011-05-30 12:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 12:42 ` Julien Danjou
3 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-05-30 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Another try of the Mail-Copies-To header since the previous attempt was
stalled by Gmane.
Ted
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