From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78000 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glyn Millington Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: New messages marked O before seeing them Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:23:54 +0000 Organization: Utterly lacking Message-ID: <87hbb09if9.fsf@nowhere.org> References: <87ei69praf.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <87vczkcld3.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <871v27zoqh.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <87pqppb0f3.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <877hbwc1ls.fsf@nowhere.org> <8762rg77x9.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <87y64c9z8e.fsf@nowhere.org> <87tyf0yu90.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> Reply-To: wistanswick@linuxmail.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300487637 9789 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2011 22:33:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:33:57 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26314@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Mar 18 23:33:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0iEy-0001Ve-0a for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:33:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0iEl-0004Vm-LY; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:33:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0iEj-0004VW-NV for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:33:37 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0iEf-0002It-Pe for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:33:37 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0iEf-0007qX-28 for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:33:33 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0iEc-0001O5-Rg for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:33:30 +0100 Original-Received: from 82.152.120.109 ([82.152.120.109]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:33:30 +0100 Original-Received: from wistanswick by 82.152.120.109 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:33:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 55 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.152.120.109 X-Liturgical-Date: Commemoration: Saint Cyril of Jerusalem, bishop and doctor of the Church, A.D. 2011 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110015 (No Gnus v0.15) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:hk+3qf89BcuuFpAkqGoOPzWo/Io= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78000 Archived-At: John Sullivan writes: > Glyn Millington writes: > >> John Sullivan writes: >> >>> Glyn Millington writes: >>> >>>> John Sullivan writes: >>>> >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >>>>> >>>>>> John Sullivan writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not a for-sure recipe :/ Try sending yourself a few dozen >>>>>>> messages with the folder open for an hour or so. During that >>>>>>> time, delete a few messages, move a few messages to another >>>>>>> group, read a few messages. Then / N. That's closer to the >>>>>>> conditions under which I see it. >>>>>> Could you try to provoke the bug with a simpler recipe? :-) >>>>>> >>>>> Yeah, I'm trying, but I can't seem to make it happen, even though >>>>> it happened to 10 or so messages just today in the normal course >>>>> of reading and answering my mail. I'm baffled that other people >>>>> aren't seeing this, because I don't think I'm doing anything >>>>> weird. The only thing I do that's maybe unusual for gnus users is >>>>> actually delete a fair amount of mail. >>>> I'm seeing it too and have been for some time. I believe it >>>> started when I upgraded to Emacs 23. Changing to No Gnus 13 >>>> improved it but did not eradicate it completely. >>> Okay, good to not be alone :). >>> Can you describe anything else about the conditions under which you >>> see it? Do you also do a lot of moving messages between groups >>> and/or deleting messages? What IMAP server? >> Not IMAP here but pop and nnml >> I do delete a lot of messages, but don't shift them around between >> groups much. And it only happens with mail - not with news. What is >> more it is not consistent in any way that is obvious to me. >> > > Not even IMAP??? So, by what means do you bring new mail to gnus? Does > it talk direct to a remote POP server? Getmail dumps the mail into my user's inbox and then I have this (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "")) mail-sources '((file :path "/home/glyn/Mail/inbox") (file :path "/var/spool/mail/glyn"))) Then fancy splitting to sort the mail into groups. atb Glyn