Re: Gnus bugfixing is broken.

[David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>]

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> It does not appear like the bug channel fed directly by the gnus-bug
>> command is actually being read by anybody.
>
> I read it daily.  But I've been busy, so I haven't responded to anything
> for a week.
>
>> It has now been about two weeks that message-yank-original has stopped
>> being functional for installations that don't have cl loaded permanently
>> (namely standard Emacs installations).
>
> You reported it
>
> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:26:17 +0100 (6 days, 19 minutes, 18 seconds ago)

"stopped being functional" is not the same as "you reported it".  Sure,
I reported it about a week ago.  It has been several days before that
that it appeared in the upstream git archive of Emacs.  It presumably
has been in Gnus upstream several days before that.

There has been _no_ indication that my report has been read or received
by anybody at all.

The above message by yours is the first such indication (the original
message remains without followup or reply).  It was rather hard to check
for replies/reactions anyway, since the gnus-bug list does not appear on
gmane or other typical mailing list replicators.  One can only look at
news.gnus.org itself.  Finding the information where the gnus bug list
ends up is not easy, either: on
<URL:http://www.gnus.org/resources.html>, you find the sentence

    If you want to report Gnus bugs, you should send them to
    bugs@gnus.org. The bug reports (and responses from the Gnus
    Bugfixing Girls & Boys) can be read from Norway.

The last word in that sentence ("Norway") happens to be a hyperlink with
the news: protocol.  In the unlikely case that your system will resolve
such hyperlinks to your favorite newsreader (an educated guess being
"Gnus"), you'll get there.

Letting your system resolve such links requires a helper application
like


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#!/bin/sh
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installed in your binary path and your system knowing about it.  I
should guess that the ratio of Gnus users for which this is the case is
less than 5%.

So the only visible reaction I get after about a week is a chastisement
for thinking something in the bug reporting process appears to be
broken.

To be honest, I am not exactly convinced otherwise yet.

-- 
David Kastrup