From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/75186 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Streamlining first-time Gnus usage Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:49:19 +0800 Message-ID: <87hbed3yhc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87bp4pyvgd.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r5dibc4f.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292554253 29297 80.91.229.12 (17 Dec 2010 02:50:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 02:50:53 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23541@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Dec 17 03:50:49 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PTQP9-0006gQ-Fb for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:50:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PTQOE-0008UY-J2; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:49:50 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PTQOB-0008UF-DF for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:49:47 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTQO1-0003mB-1N for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:49:46 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTQO0-00083a-BH for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:49:36 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PTQNz-00068S-2T for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:49:35 +0100 Original-Received: from 123.121.226.3 ([123.121.226.3]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:49:35 +0100 Original-Received: from eric by 123.121.226.3 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:49:35 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 48 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 123.121.226.3 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qulOFN+YE+wlDjcKpBTv9RUcKv0= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:75186 Archived-At: On Thu, Dec 16 2010, Steinar Bang wrote: >>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen : > >> Even now, I have a heck of a time importing emails. While I was >> screwing up moving my gnus installation into a different directory I >> got a spurious Mail/misc directory with a single email in it, and >> there is apparently no command to take that email and put it into my >> gnus system. > > Did you try open that single email as an nnmbox folder? After that, you > could `B m' it to a different folder. > > I've done most of my migration using `B m'. > > I started out with RMAIL as (almost) the first email client I used on a > regular basis (there was a DECNet and an EARN client I had, but they > were so inconvenient to get at, they never got out of the > experimentation stage). > > I quickly moved on to VM, since that let me have mbox folders that other > email tools could read. > > When the MIME talk started in 1993 or thereabouts, there were no MIME > plans for VM. But there were an least one non-emacs MH client that > supported MIME. So I moved to having my folders as MH and using mh-e > and mew, until I finally made the decision to go all gnus (in 1995 or > 1996 or thenabouts). > > Then I used nnmh and nntp until the nnmh folders were transformed into > nnml. And then nnimap hit the stage and I used a mix of nnml and nnimap > and nntp. And a mix of server side and client side filtering. > > In 2001 I finally dropped nnml, and `B m'-d all the nnml email into > mailboxes on my private IMAP server (a cyrus server... that I had to > move into twice, because I had to patch cyrus to not strip the 8th bit > and ruin all of my just-send-8 emails from the nineties). > > Since then I've run a combination of nntp and nnimap. Sometimes two > nnimap servers, sometimes just my personal nnimap server. > > When migrating servers I have talked to both servers and `B m'-d the > stuff I have cared to keep. > > But I digress... Man, that was a scary story. Are you trying to tell us kids that we don't have it so bad? :)