From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68461 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vegard Vesterheim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: mail group by author? Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:50:54 +0200 Organization: UNINETT. Message-ID: <87hc0nwlb5.fsf@uninett.no> References: <87fxgvnz4k.fsf@escher.local.home> <86myajqjec.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d4bb3ba7.fsf@engster.org> <87skk7wq2y.fsf@uninett.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1239969105 19490 80.91.229.12 (17 Apr 2009 11:51:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:51:45 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16896@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Apr 17 13:53:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lumcr-0002hG-Qq for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:52:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lumb0-0002KS-UV; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lumaz-0002K2-0O for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:51:01 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lumat-000287-7p for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:51:00 -0500 Original-Received: from regensburg.uninett.no ([158.38.180.100]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1LumbJ-0001Eq-00 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:51:21 +0200 Original-Received: from angel (angel-tl.uninett.no [158.38.11.191]) by regensburg.uninett.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5FCB4703C2 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:50:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: Vl8-zx%G~!/rC5W!BM+T]w:k.[$Zqh. Q'Af|}oZ6JAhaysP"/43eD<|.BoMETII (David Engster's message of "Fri\, 17 Apr 2009 12\:46\:09 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68461 Archived-At: On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:46:09 +0200 David Engster wrote: > Vegard Vesterheim writes: >> I have great hopes for dbmail (dbmail.org). dbmail has an IMAP-backend >> for retrieving messages. Storing headers (and body) for mail messages >> into a database, opens possibilities for flexible and efficient >> queries and retrieval of email messages. > > Thanks for that link, I didn't know of dbmail. This looks pretty similar > to what archiveopteryx does (www.archiveopteryx.org), which however has > support for virtual folders (they call it "views"). Heh, thanks for that link, I didn't know of archiveopteryx ;-) It does indeed look similar to dbmail, in fact there is a special FAQ entry that compares the two: http://www.archiveopteryx.org/faq/mailstore#dbmail I'm intrigued about the possibility for virtual folders in archiveopteryx, I hope to get a chance to try this soon. > Both seem a bit oversized for a single user though, and I guess you > would need your own server to easily access your mail from different > machines? Also, I'm really happy with Dovecot, and there would have to > be some serious advantages to make me switch to something else. And > there are many people who happily use commercial IMAP services > (Fastmail, Google, whatever), which should also be able to have fast > full text search. > > What I'd really love to see is a client-only solution, e.g. a program > which creates a *local* index from a *remote* IMAP server. I typically use several different computers, so I prefer a server-side solution. One of my biggest gripes about Gnus is that some meta-information (.newsrc.eld etc.) is stored on the client instead of the server. This means that the count of unread messages typically is wrong when I move from one computer to another. Yes, I know about solutions like this: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusSync - Vegard V -