From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64415 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: charset ANSI_x3.4-1968, et al Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:45:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87hcshwrjb.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> References: <87tzwiwcmo.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1174293935 8073 80.91.229.12 (19 Mar 2007 08:45:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Karl Chen Original-X-From: ding-owner+M12939@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Mar 19 09:45:31 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HTDUg-0002wZ-2J for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:45:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTDUf-0002Ds-W4; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 03:45:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTDUe-0002DV-Lv for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 03:45:28 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTDUY-0002Lf-QS for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 03:45:28 -0500 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1HTDUX-0004rr-00 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:45:21 +0100 Original-Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id l2J8jCHS024035 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:45:12 +0100 OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 1:22:070319:ding@gnus.org::Ho/zwDmoNF0y3zG4:BBaU X-Hashcash: 1:22:070319:quarl@cs.berkeley.edu::xqOtPadqsGuHtTqx:6/wl In-Reply-To: (Karl Chen's message of "Sun\, 18 Mar 2007 16\:57\:20 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64415 Archived-At: Karl Chen writes: >>>>>> On 2007-03-18 12:54 PDT, Simon Josefsson writes: > > Simon> RFC 1345 is not standards-track, but the IANA registry > Simon> is used by the standards-track MIME. > > Good point about standards-track-ness. But, regardless of whether > it's officially "okay", I would recommend /accepting/ (not > sending) the ANSI_x3.4-1968 string: "Be liberal in what you > accept, conservative in what you send." There are already > implementations "in the wild" sending it (perhaps incorrectly, but > still, it's out there) -- Fedora, Debian, and presumably their > derivatives. Yes, I agree. > >> [1] This is now happening on multiple systems (which are > >> all Debian). cron appears to be using the default locale > >> name. On Linux, you can get the string ANSI_x3.4-1968 if > >> you run "LC_CTYPE=C locale charmap". > > Simon> I think this should be reported as a bug. > > Yup, on the "conservative in what you send" side of it, I also > sent them patch after I emailed ding@. > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=415302 Thanks! /Simon