From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/60525 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Werner Koch Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: mml-secure: function doubled, passwd chache, use-my-public key Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:09:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87hdfe1jpz.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> References: <87r7ejzetl.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87psu239bo.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120241147 21397 80.91.229.2 (1 Jul 2005 18:05:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M9052@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jul 01 20:05:47 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DoPsC-00010r-3P for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:04:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1DoPyT-0004dr-00; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:10:49 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1DoPyP-0004dm-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:10:45 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DoPyN-0005H0-WE for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:10:44 -0500 Original-Received: from kerckhoffs.g10code.com ([217.69.77.222]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DoPyN-0007BR-00 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:10:43 +0200 Original-Received: from uucp by kerckhoffs.g10code.com with local-rmail (Exim 4.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1DoP6a-0002dn-22 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:15:08 +0200 Original-Received: from wk by localhost with local (Exim 4.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1DoPxQ-0003QO-Ml for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:09:44 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Organisation: g10 Code GmbH OpenPGP: id=5B0358A2; url=finger:wk@g10code.com In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:43:53 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60525 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60525 On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:43:53 +0200, Simon Josefsson said: > Does (setq pgg-cache-passphrase nil) help? It appears to work here. Nope. > Then why isn't used automatically? To get it working I had to start Isn't that a packaging feature? It was actually pretty hard to get it into Debian; it was blocked by an Debian internal misunderstanding. >From what I heard, SuSE uses gpg-agent for a long time now and recent KDE releases actually require gpg-agent. > the daemon manually and add 'use-agent' to ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf. Without that many people would inadvertly send the passphrase with the message; consider the usual invocation pog gpg: (echo passphrase; cat message) | gpg --passphrase-fd 0 ... >out.msg so it is far safer to require a conscious decision from the user. > is hardly user friendly. When I log on my Debian box, ssh-agent is > started and I didn't do anything to make it run. Perhaps gpg-agent > can be started in a similar way. And there seem to be some font bug > in the pinentry dialog window, presumably Unicode related. The latest release 1.9.17 may indeed be started like ssh-agent and may actually replace ssh-agent (except for ssh v1 keys) - you can use a simple wrapper script named ssh-agent and everything works. See the info page. Salam-Shalom, Werner