From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53455 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: NAGY Andras Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: agent issues in 5.10.2 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:15:20 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87he5nzjnb.fsf@goldfish.local> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1058296512 12387 80.91.224.249 (15 Jul 2003 19:15:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M2000@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jul 15 21:15:09 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19cVGX-0003DJ-00 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:15:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19cVHL-0003no-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:15:59 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19cVHH-0003nj-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:15:55 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 7177 invoked by alias); 15 Jul 2003 19:15:55 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 7172 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 19:15:55 -0000 Original-Received: from mx2.elte.hu (157.181.151.9) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 19:15:55 -0000 Original-Received: from goldfish.local (goldfish.elte.hu [157.181.150.150]) by mx2.elte.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762D14A1A0 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:15:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from nagya by goldfish.local with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19cVGj-0000B4-00 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:15:21 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53455 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53455 It appears that the list of agentized servers is stored in News/agent/lib/servers as well as in the variable gnus-agent-covered-methods in .newsrc.eld. Why this redundancy? Also, the actual parameters for the agentized servers (e.g. nntp-port-number et al), which are set in .gnus, are also stored in the variable gnus-agent-covered-methods in .newsrc.eld (and sometimes in lib/servers too). Again, why this redundancy? If something is redundant, one day it will get inconsistent. It happened to me that after changing a parameter (irrelevant to the server's identity) of a server in .gnus, it resulted in a new entry for the same server with the new configuration in lib/servers, in addition to the previous configuration. What is the `outgoing counterpart' of the `:plugged t' setting in mail source specifiers? I.e. how can Gnus be configured to send mail even if in unplugged state (my MTA does queuing, so Gnus doesn't have to) ? regards, Andras