From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/47141 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Question about offline mode Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:34:48 +0200 Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87heftyoo7.fsf@crybaby.cs.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1034350574 22443 127.0.0.1 (11 Oct 2002 15:36:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1801pj-0005pP-00 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:36:12 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1801om-0005E2-00; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:35:12 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:35:55 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA22415 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:35:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 27877 invoked by alias); 11 Oct 2002 15:34:49 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27872 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2002 15:34:49 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by gnus.org with SMTP; 11 Oct 2002 15:34:49 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1802cq-0005Qx-00 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:26:56 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 29 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p50877a0e.dip.t-dialin.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1034353616 20730 80.135.122.14 (11 Oct 2002 16:26:56 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Oct 2002 16:26:56 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nnfrJEJGkhRMfjwaUI1YkNNjIlE= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47141 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47141 I never really understood what offline mode actually _is_. Often the connection to my IMAP server is down because I forget to (re-)start the port forwarding. Then Gnus asks me whether I want to switch the server to offline mode. And then it seemingly works well. I was kind of hoping that offline mode is similar to unplugged mode, but just for this single server. Is this supposed to be the case? So am I supposed to be able to enter groups from offline servers to see all the articles that the agent has downloaded already? And when I try to post an article to the nnimap server that's offline, does Gnus write to the nndraft:queue group? When I try enter enter the nnimap+dtm:INBOX.misc group when the server is offline, I get an error message along the lines of "no such file or directory". Is this normal? If offline mode is not supposed to behave like unplugged mode, wouldn't this be a useful feature? Is it difficult to do? Is somebody willing to do it? There might be thorny problems such as posting to an nntp server while Gcc'ing to an nnimap server, and one of them is offline. Then the nndraft:queue group has to know which servers are still "to do". I wonder if there is a simple solution (such as: if at least one of the servers is offline, just put the whole article in the queue). kai -- ~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis)