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From: Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: message.el
Date: 03 Dec 2000 23:34:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hf4k954t.fsf@HSE-MTL-ppp64270.qc.sympatico.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Florian Weimer's message of "24 Jun 2000 23:27:10 +0200"


Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:

> Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr> writes:
> 
> > Possibly, conditionalize it by os is windows. But currently, chances
> > are great that the returned value be false under windows.
> 
> Chances are great that "message-make-sender" returns a bogus address
> on many systems.  In the past, Lars expressed several times that he
> feels that's right, anyway.

Ok, so this is a real problem now. The problem is that he's correct for NNTP.
The Sender header in NNTP is supposed to be there to help track down where the
message really came from, not to actually be a deliverable address. However
it's wrong for mail messages. In mail messages the Sender header is supposed
to be the e-mail address of the person actually sending the e-mail in cases
such as when a secretary is sending an e-mail for someone else.

This has caused problems for me a few times. Some windows software actually
uses the Sender header in preference to the From header. Also some list
processing software (brokenly imho, even if you accept the interpretation
above) try to subscribe the Sender address rather than the From address.

Probably the sender header should simply be stripped from mail messages since
there really is no consensus on how it should be used. If anything I would
suggest message check when preparing to send the message if the From header is
the same as it would be initialized. If it's been altered by the user in the
message buffer then message should ask whether to add a Sender header
indicating the actual sender.

Unfortunately this is one of those cases where news articles and mail messages
don't have precisely the same interpretation for the same header.

-- 
greg




  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-12-04  4:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-06-24 19:43 [patch] message.el Fabrice Popineau
2000-06-24 21:27 ` Florian Weimer
2000-06-28 21:07   ` Fabrice Popineau
2000-08-14 18:40     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2000-12-04  4:34   ` Greg Stark [this message]
2000-06-24 23:02 ` Kai Großjohann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-03-28  8:39 message.el Kai Grossjohann
1996-03-27 12:57 message.el Kai Grossjohann
1996-03-24  7:51 message.el Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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