From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 6049 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2020 18:35:43 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with UTF8ESMTPZ; 7 Apr 2020 18:35:43 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jLt4H-0007fX-Bz; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 13:35:25 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jLt4E-0007cj-Dt for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 13:35:22 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jLt4C-0004rh-So for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 13:35:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References :Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=4XZrcGcwUbSx69Sm2JLWxE2BfBxGzxY9ckHaZBZKxsU=; b=Tn0tMGMF4ilYGgRjMQM/nmQD2Q VioLCQ198wojMfFMFixvX5C1fTpJQmfCTxLiFW4bEvKj+Rre2wsowDeNIqebih4mmHCeaoub3NEUr qXvlJ05Rgfvbicmqt4xIB663kw3umEChH+Xv0+eyi7yDy50FOcmhV5eWuXwJ0nncueTg=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([159.69.161.202]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jLt45-00082j-LU for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 20:35:16 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jLt3z-000UaI-Re for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 20:35:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Alberto Luaces Subject: Re: gmail setup Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 20:35:02 +0200 Message-ID: <87imibuotl.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> References: <87blo7tj5l.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87zhbr47z3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87ftdjrsdm.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tv1y6pfh.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <875zedoo19.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87ftdhx29r.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87k12tipzw.fsf@dick> <87tv1wvrv0.fsf_-_@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87pncjgsdd.fsf@dick> <87pncjur27.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87lfn7gnvq.fsf@dick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JUkJS81ziOpUEGBPMSUC8F8Cmw0= List-ID: Precedence: bulk dick.r.chiang: > AL> Correction: more than 200 *unread* messages. > > The "How many articles" question is asked when accessing an inbox > that has N unreads where N is either zero or a number greater than > gnus-large-newsgroup. People more than occasionally access their inbox > when N is zero. > Strange use case you have there: I don't do that. If I wanted to access a group with zero unread messages, I would search (with nnnir, for example) instead. And, by the way, let's not forget the excellent dianyou! (https://github.com/redguardtoo/dianyou) > > AL> I have managed in the past to use gnus without writing any configuration > AL> myself — just creating an nnimap server with "e" from the server window > AL> and filling the parameters needed > > With respect, this is "over the heads" of most users. The "*Server*" > buffer somewhat "trickily" accessed via "^" is already a headscratcher (it was > for me!) for people accustomed to mainstream mail clients. > It is in the manual, which is the supposedly is the primary source of information, over those blog posts that can be not so exhaustive, or even incomplete. But my point was that setting an nnimap server usually is best done with the less parameters the better. > > I admit that complaining does not advance Gnus's cause. In my >defense, I've > published a talk-is-cheap-show-me-the-code primer to Gnus IMAP > (https://github.com/dickmao/gnus-imap-walkthrough), Thanks for that! Looks interesting. >but removing > "A Practical Guide to Gnus" from its lofty throne atop Google's results is all > but impossible at this point. > Well, you can also either change your email provider and/or your web search engine. Yes, I do have a gmail account, but nowadays is not my primary address, and have almost nothing in there. I moved to more standard-caring hosts (almost anyone but google). -- Alberto