From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88764 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Adam_Sj=C3=B8gren?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Proposed new introductory section to the Gnus manual Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 22:39:36 +0200 Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark Message-ID: <87impzx4vr.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> References: <87o90mm4x2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87blwmuh6j.fsf@dick.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87mug6klq3.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mug5bpuh.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87y2zojwbz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871rxggj9l.fsf@gmail.com> <87d0g9q44t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a7bdelf4.fsf@gmail.com> <87tv9lmhzt.fsf@bobnewell.net> <875zm1w8sf.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="21327"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36968@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Sep 10 22:40:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i7mvt-0005DC-Mx for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 22:40:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92.2) (envelope-from ) id 1i7mvf-0004nd-6v; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 15:39:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.2) (envelope-from ) id 1i7mvb-0004kp-T1 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 15:39:55 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.2) (envelope-from ) id 1i7mvZ-0007oD-To for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 15:39:55 -0500 Original-Received: from 195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no ([195.159.176.226] helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i7mvV-0003i5-CY for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 22:39:51 +0200 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i7mvU-0004ko-Ba for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 22:39:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ OpenPGP: id=476630590A231909B0A0961A49D0746121BDE416; url=https://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc Mail-Follow-Up-To: never X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97,Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88764 Archived-At: dick writes: > I'm typical of most newcomers who merely want their cloud service, i.e., > Gmail, integrated into emacs. If there is one thing I have learned about email over the past 25 years, it is that no two people agree on how they want to handle their email. What I want, some people think is nuts, and the other way around. > I couldn't find anything authoritative for this pedestrian task. See, from my perspective, I can't imagine why a user of Emacs would want to gift all their email to Google. To you it's "typical". I'm sure we could go on with a looong list like that. I once tried to write a beginners email-oriented tutorial, which even contains a specific section on Gmail: · https://koldfront.dk/text/gnus-email-tutorial.html But I never got around to finishing it, and interest has been low (might correlate with quality, though :-)) > 1) As the built-in client, it needs to work out of the box. I thought Rmail was the built-in email client? > As it stands, you *must* know elisp to be a day-to-day Gnus user, and > I'm looking to change that. Cool - looking forward to see the fruits of your labour. Best regards, Adam -- "Sadly, these days, if you know the difference Adam Sjøgren between a phillips- and a flat head screwdriver, asjo@koldfront.dk you're a renaissance man."