From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87815 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: tricky explicit interactive verbosity Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:53:28 -0800 Message-ID: <87inecsf1j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <86inef4cmf.fsf@zoho.com> <877eusu8xi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <86h8tw1uqv.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1510696614 17759 195.159.176.226 (14 Nov 2017 21:56:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:56:54 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m36029@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 14 22:56:50 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048035.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.35]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjCK-0004Bq-CU for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:56:48 +0100 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048035.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id b8646473-c986-11e7-8154-b499baabecb2; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjB9-0002iC-Vh; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:55:36 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjB5-0002hW-R3 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:55:31 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjB3-0007BL-JV for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:55:31 -0600 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjB0-00012G-J7 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:55:26 +0100 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjAq-0008AY-RT for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:55:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:tT5hBohFEbYvlYx52PGsXPFBxW4= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87815 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> It doesn't look like >> `gnus-summary-current-score' is used >> programmatically at all, so I'm not sure why >> it would need to use gnus-message in the >> first place. Other code can (and does) use >> whichever of `gnus-summary-article-score' or >> `gnus-thread-total-score' is necessary. >> >> I'd be in favor of just using `message'. > > This brings to mind something I've thought > about, namely how does Gnus development work? > Should one submit patches thru some formal > procedure with the hope it gets accepted, or > report it as a bug, or just mention it here? > This particular issue could be a good exercise > because it is so trivial and harmless to begin > with :) I'd say raise questions here, and if you don't get a satisfactory answer, use `gnus-bug'. Gnus development is a bit of a conundrum at the moment. Katsumi Yamaoka seems to have the MIME stuff well in hand, but the rest of it is kind of a free-for-all. I'm nudging myself in to the group/server area, and also into picking off low-hanging fruit (eg your report). I intend to keep doing this until I boff something up royally, and/or someone tells me to cut it out. So when I say "I'd be in favor of...", that actually means "I will push this change to master in three or four days, unless someone says not to". Eric