From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78414 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus automatic builds Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 22:02:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87ipup25k3.fsf@randomsample.de> References: <8762qs3swu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r59fr05z.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bp0jpcl2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87vcyr5jzt.fsf@randomsample.de> <87k4f7mclt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87vcyp27g5.fsf@randomsample.de> <87ipuprgat.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302206622 7281 80.91.229.12 (7 Apr 2011 20:03:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:03:42 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26717@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Apr 07 22:03:38 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7vQV-000328-Et for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 22:03:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7vQP-00012H-TB; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:03:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7vQO-000127-Rt for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:03:28 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7vQN-00023v-O6 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:03:28 -0500 Original-Received: from v3-1008.vxen.de ([79.140.41.8]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7vQM-0005x3-VN for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 22:03:27 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From; bh=YPPe8udpiBwOwvVG0Qer09yr4t2CKntwnJ1HbUay7Ok=; b=UNDgOpTp4TE0zXSf9HVnvFZpdxBzSuF3pVshhOhbG2Mb5KQDr9ELl5eftMmW1zeZj4P2k66ZjMPh5/6Xo4zH0aempS4dArste/NKcW7ZBaKIVm9ND+/d5ai1SmModmZj; Original-Received: from dslc-082-082-176-159.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.82.176.159] helo=spaten) by v3-1008.vxen.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7vQM-0007t6-5K for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 22:03:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87ipuprgat.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:51:22 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78414 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 21:21:46 +0200 David Engster wrote: > > DE> Problem is: ERT does not run under Emacs 22, nor under XEmacs. So only > DE> Emacs 23 and 24 will currently run the tests. Maybe someone will port > DE> ERT to XEmacs, then we can add that any time. > > I guess we could bundle ERT with the Gnus tests. I was hoping to avoid > that. Can it be installed in XEmacs as a package? No, ERT simply won't run under Emacs22 and XEmacs, so bundling won't help (I already locally installed it for Emacs23 on the server). Emacs22 is missing 'special-mode', as does XEmacs. Additionally, ERT is using the 'button' library, which apparently isn't available for XEmacs. At least that's what I got from a short test; there's probably more. If someone ports ERT to those Emacsen, I'll happily install it... > That's reasonable. We could also run a fake NNTP server on a local port > that knows only a few commands and send back replies for them, so the > interaction is scripted. This approach will definitely help us find > Gnus issues quickly. I don't like test-driven development, but once the > code has been written, it's extremely useful to write tests too. Yeah well, if someone writes such a server... until now, I think Gmane will do (it's superstable, as far as I know). As for testing nnimap, the server is running dovecot. It would be no problem to install a test user there. -David