From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78130 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric S Fraga Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: agent/fetch only articles from certain levels Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:13:30 +0100 Message-ID: <87ipv3i051.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <87zkokei6u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <3waagj1nen.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <87lj03v23l.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zkojjioy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <8762r79fb0.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ipv69ahl.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871v1uaopg.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87mxkg31mq.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zkofi36k.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301336057 9220 80.91.229.12 (28 Mar 2011 18:14:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:14:17 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26441@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Mar 28 20:14:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4GxA-0006Qn-VT for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:14:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4GwZ-0005CL-Jr; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:13:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4GwY-0005C0-2Z for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:13:34 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4GwX-0005LK-2l for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:13:34 -0500 Original-Received: from vscane-a2.ucl.ac.uk ([144.82.108.42]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4GwU-0005LS-KU for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:13:30 +0200 Original-Received: from [85.210.134.252] (helo=localhost) by vscane-a.ucl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4GwR-0005qw-Hm for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:13:27 +0100 X-Face: av6A"vZ{AypDB`d^.T35oG%$E*Qh]4F)K=*$-NHz5{7WZfAFQFB]F@gf}l9`XLs9(iD?D/! nafKE,S#G!4W/flj=9(U{]t'lP,,5~:s*~;kKR Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Riley's message of "Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:33:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-UCL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the UCL Helpdesk, helpdesk@ucl.ac.uk for more information X-UCL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UCL-MailScanner-From: e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78130 Archived-At: Richard Riley writes: > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> Richard Riley writes: >> >> [...] >> >>> Just to re-iterate : I feel it makes sense to activate ALL subscribed >>> groups which are "agentised" since there is no network access >> >> Actually, I wouldn't want this. Offline, I often use a very slow laptop >> and it can take quite a while to activate all groups. I think changing >> the levels of the groups is easy enough, once we get past the >> distinction between native/foreign/secondary groups. > > Me too : a netbook with an n550. That said you understand my issue with > a "C u 5 g" type activation which forces re-reads from non agentised > groups? Potentially very expensive when facing roaming charges. yes, I understand your issue with this. what I don't understand is why, if I am using gnus *unplugged*, doing "C-u 5 g" actually queries any online servers as opposed to querying the agent. This does seem to be wrong in some way... it doesn't bother me because when I'm offline, I am indeed *offline* and the queries time out immediately (with not cost incurred). -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1 + No Gnus v0.16