From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78094 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric S Fraga Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: agent/fetch only articles from certain levels Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:05:42 +0000 Message-ID: <87ipv69ahl.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <87zkokei6u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <3waagj1nen.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <87lj03v23l.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zkojjioy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <8762r79fb0.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301087197 24407 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2011 21:06:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:06:37 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26405@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Mar 25 22:06:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3EDF-0007Zs-Eo for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:06:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3ECd-0004r0-Rd; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:05:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3ECc-0004qm-9x for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:05:50 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3ECY-00016H-2F for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:05:50 -0500 Original-Received: from vscane-a2.ucl.ac.uk ([144.82.108.42]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3ECX-0003en-9i for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:05:45 +0100 Original-Received: from [85.210.134.252] (helo=localhost) by vscane-a.ucl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3ECV-0002Pq-B8 for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:05:43 +0000 X-Face: av6A"vZ{AypDB`d^.T35oG%$E*Qh]4F)K=*$-NHz5{7WZfAFQFB]F@gf}l9`XLs9(iD?D/! nafKE,S#G!4W/flj=9(U{]t'lP,,5~:s*~;kKR Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <8762r79fb0.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> ("Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B8gren=22's?= message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:21:39 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-UCL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the UCL Helpdesk, helpdesk@ucl.ac.uk for more information X-UCL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UCL-MailScanner-From: e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78094 Archived-At: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sj=C3=B8gren) writes: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:58:21 +0000, Eric wrote: > >> Richard Riley writes: >>> Eric S Fraga writes: > >> [...] > >>>> I think I do understand. You may wish to set not only >>>> gnus-activate-level but also gnus-activate-foreign-newsgroups to 5? It >>>> defaults to 4, I believe. >>>=20 >>> That works yes! Wow. Thanks! But "foreign group"? Why are they foreign >>> groups? They are groups attached to nntp servers defined in select >>> methods. Ye gods its complicated ;) ... > >> Somebody will correct me but I think /foreign/ groups refer to those >> where the actual content is stored remotely (nntp, nnimap) versus >> locally (nnml, nnmaildir). > > The manual says: > > ,----[ 10.4 Terminology - http://gnus.org/manual/gnus_366.html ] > | native > | Gnus will always use one method (and back end) as the native, or > | default, way of getting news. > |=20 > | foreign > | You can also have any number of foreign groups active at the same > | time. These are groups that use non-native non-secondary back ends > | for getting news. > |=20 > | secondary > | Secondary back ends are somewhere half-way between being native and > | being foreign, but they mostly act like they are native. > `---- > > > Best regards, > > Adam Adam, thanks for the pointer to the relevant place in the manual. My guess was basically completely wrong. Oh well... However, I am not sure the documentation really explains anything at all. It's the kind of documentation that makes sense if you already know what it is telling you and otherwise just sounds like a circular definition... and, unfortunately, there are quite a few sections like this in the gnus manual. In any case, this definitely doesn't help me (or the OP maybe) understand why the default activation level for native groups is 6 and for foreign is 4; and what about secondary...? And how any of this relates to agents? Have a great weekend all! --=20 : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1 + No Gnus v0.= 16