From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/69582 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus Git repository info and comitters: need updated password Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:37:18 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87iq7opc29.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87sk71o198.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bpdpgsj9.fsf@gate450.dyndns.org> <87eiiijnqz.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k4s83k25.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877ho8l427.fsf@gate450.dyndns.org> <878w8mij14.fsf@gate450.dyndns.org> <87bpdhsshj.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y6glrcpd.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87pr1xrb7g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fx2tq8nx.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871vec7vw7.fsf@gate450.dyndns.org> <87633ordmb.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sk6spyi7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxx067n5.fsf@gate450.dyndns.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271633879 31763 80.91.229.12 (18 Apr 2010 23:37:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:37:59 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: ding-owner+M17976@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Apr 19 01:37:54 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O3e3l-0002s5-SH for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:37:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O3e3X-0003aK-1n; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:37:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O3e3U-0003a5-9t for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:37:36 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O3e3G-00074D-GB for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:37:35 -0500 Original-Received: from blockstar.com ([208.100.47.114] helo=mail.blockstar.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1O3e3F-0006ZD-00; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:37:21 +0200 Original-Received: from heechee (c-98-227-29-141.hsd1.il.comcast.net [98.227.29.141]) by mail.blockstar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C403B3E0638; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:37:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" In-Reply-To: <87mxx067n5.fsf@gate450.dyndns.org> (Andreas Seltenreich's message of "Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:35:26 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:69582 Archived-At: On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:35:26 +0200 Andreas Seltenreich wrote: AS> Sounds very promising. It uses plain CGI, so I don't see problems with AS> the old apache. According to the docs, it should also work nicely with AS> the existing BasicAuth credentials for write access. Being a "smart AS> protocol", it should be more efficient as well. I'm still shivering AS> from the 7000 WebDAV-Requests git made during that short debug AS> session... Unfortunately it requires lots of Apache 2.x specific things, according to the HOWTOs I found, so I'll just set up a 2.x server on git.gnus.org (it's a separate IP so it won't interfere with the existing 1.x servers on that machine). On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Reiner Steib wrote: >> IMO it's best to set up an automatic publisher of the www.gnus.org and >> git.gnus.org sites straight from Git (which is why I set up the www/ >> directory). That will work regardless of who is the web site maintainer >> and will take the publishing burden off that person. RS> I think the whole web site should be in the repository (like on RS> savannah.gnu.org), I already suggested this to Lars (maybe a year ago). With the git-http-backend we can set up auto-publishing so it can all Just Work. Do you want it automatic immediate, scheduled hourly/daily, or manual by you and me? You will have to change the Gnus release procedure since it's very CVS-centric but I think it will be simpler and easier as well. RS> Please try to make sure to update the web pages WRT cvs when doing the official RS> switch. Do you intend to sync from git to cvs? No, I think CVS should be shut off. It's a waste of time to maintain CVS today IMO. If you disagree, tell me why :) CVS is already disabled for commits so until www.gnus.org is updated we can keep it running but without any new updates. I think that's an acceptable situation. There's git-cvsserver as well. I'm opposed to providing that but will listen if there's a reason to do so. RS> WRT to the switch to some other VC system: I'd prefer not to have a different RS> one than for Emacs, but well... Honestly I wish the Emacs maintainers the best with Bazaar, but I don't want to run a Bazaar repository. I hope this doesn't become an issue with you or them. RS> BTW, http://git.gnus.org says: RS> | The comitter should also have a ~/.netrc file that says RS> | machine git.gnus.org login yourlogin password yourpassword RS> Is it really necessary to store the *unencrypted* password in .netrc? I don't believe curl supports encrypting the netrc. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can tell us if that is planned for the future. As you know I've always pushed people to encrypt their authinfo file so this situation is unpleasant to me as well. These passwords are also crypt-ed on the server, which is not a very secure algorithm, and of course we're going against a self-signed SSL certificate. I'd rather have used SSH but that's just not an option until and if Lars approves it. So as with DNS and the SSL certificate, we'll wait for his decision. Ted