From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68497 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: supercite no longer cool Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:51:06 +0200 Message-ID: <87iqkpb7ad.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> References: <8763gr3qx4.fsf@jidanni.org> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240902051 28012 80.91.229.12 (28 Apr 2009 07:00:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:00:51 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16931@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Apr 28 09:00:42 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LyhJ3-0007mb-9B for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:00:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LyhIF-0004MD-1s; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:59:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lyh9z-0004Jv-9j for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:51:19 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lyh9t-0007Bw-H1 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:51:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1LyhAK-0004Ti-00 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:51:40 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.175]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3S6pAq6002523 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:51:11 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA26F13760 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:51:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: 'bg&jY[8V'W&:=~6w"|>}#4/T;w~36ei4NNMyKRR.a$n=$|sWFPF1y]a\>6kc\*#GN]UDM| Ywv,vbL^XF1nIp\:F=$Ei2o&mEe:%N~,:3]vtQ~s9u$9izmX$IF@VgGl7/,^dbuM<3|AO2}.%|%?kZ 2Y=@\U!~cll^=8Z9ihKq%wmUe1Ky(#kl3T'>Qk0Ia3mCBsTk?E(,X Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Steinar Bang's message of "Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:42:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-CollegeOfNewCaledonia-Metrics: poseidon 1189; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68497 Archived-At: On Mon, Apr 27 2009, Steinar Bang wrote: > (add-hook 'mail-citation-hook 'sc-cite-original) See the recent thread about `message-cite-function', http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68470 ,----[ ] | From: Reiner Steib | Subject: Re: emacs-22.3 + gnus-5.11 = broken mail-citation-hook | Newsgroups: comp.emacs | Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:02:41 +0100 | Message-ID: <87tz64tbf2.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> | | [...] | | The missing feature in Emacs 22.3 is that | `message-cite-original-without-signature' doesn't call | `mail-citation-hook'. It's a missing feature rather than a bug | because this fact is documented: | | ,----[ v message-cite-function RET (Emacs 22.3) ] | | message-cite-function is a variable defined in `message.el'. | | Its value is | | message-cite-original-without-signature | | | | Documentation: | | *Function for citing an original message. | | Predefined functions include `message-cite-original' and | | `message-cite-original-without-signature'. | | Note that `message-cite-original' uses `mail-citation-hook' if that | | is non-nil. | `---- | | ,----[ v message-cite-function RET (No Gnus / Emacs 23) ] | | message-cite-function is a variable defined in `message.el'. | | Its value is | | message-cite-original-without-signature | | | | Documentation: | | *Function for citing an original message. | | Predefined functions include `message-cite-original' and | | `message-cite-original-without-signature'. | | Note that these functions use `mail-citation-hook' if that is non-nil. | `---- | | > That is, backward compatibility was broken for some reason. | | Breaking backward compatibility certainly wasn't intended. Sorry for | the inconvenience. | | But backporting the No Gnus changes to Gnus 5.10.12 seems to risky. | But I'll add a warning to the docs: | | ,----[ (info "(gnus)Oort Gnus") / GNUS-NEWS ] | | * Signatures are stripped when replying by default. I.e. the | | default of `message-cite-function' has been changed to | | `message-cite-original-without-signature'. *Note Insertion | | Variables: (message)Insertion Variables. | | | | Note that in contrast to `message-cite-original', | | `message-cite-original-without-signature' doesn't call | | `mail-citation-hook'. This incompatibility affects only this | | version - in Gnus 5.12 (and Emacs 23) it has been unified so | | that both call `mail-citation-hook'. | `---- `---- Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/