From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68202 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bug#2031: 23.0.60; Edit menu missing in Gnus buffers. Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:14:37 +0100 Message-ID: <87iqo35hb6.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> References: <20090124203612.935EB9E022@smtp.fullrate.dk> <87ocxww993.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87d4eb7lh7.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87mydfplsg.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232910989 12461 80.91.229.12 (25 Jan 2009 19:16:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2031@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Chong Yidong , ding@gnus.org To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. 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Storm" , 2031@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Chong Yidong , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87mydfplsg.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:17:35 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-SIHOPE-DCC-3-Metrics: poseidon 1085; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail.uni-ulm.de id n0PJEfgb013882 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68202 Archived-At: On Sun, Jan 25 2009, Kim F. Storm wrote: > Reiner Steib writes: >> There are so many top-level menus that they might not even fit on a >> typical 80 column frame depending on the fonts. > > The real problem is too many Gnus menus then :-) I'm not sure which ones are less useful than "Edit" or "Tools". I don't really like a redesign of menus so shortly before the start of Emacs 23 pretest. > But there is plenty of room in the Article menu. When point is on a MIME part, you get: File Options Buffers Tools Treatments Article Post Command MIME=A0Part He= lp >> Maybe it would be better to remove the Tools menu instead? > > I don't think that is acceptable - E.g. apply patch on the tools menu. Hm. > Maybe we could get rid of the Options menu (in general) by moving it to > the bottom of the Edit menu where many other applications have their > "Customize..." or "Options..." entry. I don't think this would be useful for Emacs in general. >> So at least we would make it customizable (similar to >> message-tool-bar-zap-list). > > Fine with me. I'll be busy during the next week so I probably won't have time to implement it. Any volunteer? > BTW, why is this reply sent to Chong and not Reiner. > The headers in Reinar's response said: > >>Mail-Followup-To: Chong Yidong , 2031@emacsbugs.= donarmstrong.com, ding@gnus.org, storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) >>Reply-To: Reiner Steib > > Does the Mail-Followup-To header take precedense over the Reply-To > header ...=20 I'd guess so. The Reply-To just says "Use ...@imap.cc instead of ...@gmx.de for replies". [ BTW, the mail that pass the bugtracker have a different Reply-To: To: Chong Yidong Cc: 2031@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, ding@gnus.org, "Kim F. Storm" Reply-To: Reiner Steib , 2031@emacsbugs.donarmstro= ng.com Mail-Followup-To: Chong Yidong , 2031@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, ding@gnus.org, storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)=20 ] > shouldn't Gnus use both when using wide reply (I added Reinar > manually on this mail)? No, I added this Mail-Followup-To since I don't need a copy because I read the list (but I don't care much if I get one - it is split to my news-cc group). Bye, Reiner. --=20 ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/