* pgg in gnus
@ 2006-09-12 21:41 Miles Bader
2006-09-13 8:38 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Miles Bader @ 2006-09-12 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
As you know, I normally merge all changes from the gnus 5.10 branch into
the gnus trunk. However, pgg is a constant problem -- I dropped the
last two changes to pgg, because I couldn't figure out how to merge
them. Almost every pgg change these days seems to have the same
problem, touching lots of code that is completely different in the two
branches.
So, I can see two options:
(1) Somebody else takes over the job of making sure any necessary pgg
changes from 5.10 (which includes changes merged from Emacs) are
included in the gnus trunk.
(2) We revert pgg in the gnus trunk to the version in gnus 5.10, as
suggested (or at least implied) recently by the pgg author Daiki
Ueno.
As pgg is apparently something of a lame duck, and is a security related
package, (2) seems like it may be the most expedient method.
[There's potentially also (3), of course, which is to move the gnus
trunk version to 5.10, but as I recall, Richard doesn't want those
changes in Emacs right now, and the 5.10 branch should be the same as
the Emacs sources.]
Thanks,
-Miles
--
`The suburb is an obsolete and contradictory form of human settlement'
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2006-09-12 21:41 pgg in gnus Miles Bader
@ 2006-09-13 8:38 ` Simon Josefsson
2007-01-02 1:09 ` Andreas Seltenreich
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 2006-09-13 8:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
> As you know, I normally merge all changes from the gnus 5.10 branch into
> the gnus trunk. However, pgg is a constant problem -- I dropped the
> last two changes to pgg, because I couldn't figure out how to merge
> them. Almost every pgg change these days seems to have the same
> problem, touching lots of code that is completely different in the two
> branches.
>
> So, I can see two options:
>
> (1) Somebody else takes over the job of making sure any necessary pgg
> changes from 5.10 (which includes changes merged from Emacs) are
> included in the gnus trunk.
>
> (2) We revert pgg in the gnus trunk to the version in gnus 5.10, as
> suggested (or at least implied) recently by the pgg author Daiki
> Ueno.
>
> As pgg is apparently something of a lame duck, and is a security related
> package, (2) seems like it may be the most expedient method.
I'd agree, if that is what Daiki prefers.
The work made on PGG in the trunk -- which do have some advantages,
such as better gpg-agent and smart card integration -- should ideally
be done for EasyPG, which appear to be replacing PGG in the future.
Some of it may already be working in EPG, though.
/Simon
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* Re: pgg in gnus
2006-09-13 8:38 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2007-01-02 1:09 ` Andreas Seltenreich
2007-01-06 14:34 ` Reiner Steib
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From: Andreas Seltenreich @ 2007-01-02 1:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Simon Josefsson writes:
> Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> So, I can see two options:
>>
>> (1) Somebody else takes over the job of making sure any necessary pgg
>> changes from 5.10 (which includes changes merged from Emacs) are
>> included in the gnus trunk.
>>
>> (2) We revert pgg in the gnus trunk to the version in gnus 5.10, as
>> suggested (or at least implied) recently by the pgg author Daiki
>> Ueno.
>>
>> As pgg is apparently something of a lame duck, and is a security related
>> package, (2) seems like it may be the most expedient method.
>
> I'd agree, if that is what Daiki prefers.
(2) would also have the advantage of shutting down the constant
trickle of bug reports that can only be reproduced with the version on
the trunk. (The latest being news:878xhq3p3m.fsf@Satux.Puorg).
regards,
andreas
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* Re: pgg in gnus
2007-01-02 1:09 ` Andreas Seltenreich
@ 2007-01-06 14:34 ` Reiner Steib
2007-01-21 9:58 ` Andreas Seltenreich
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-01-06 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On Tue, Jan 02 2007, Andreas Seltenreich wrote:
> Simon Josefsson writes:
>> Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>>> So, I can see two options:
>>>
>>> (1) Somebody else takes over the job of making sure any necessary pgg
>>> changes from 5.10 (which includes changes merged from Emacs) are
>>> included in the gnus trunk.
>>>
>>> (2) We revert pgg in the gnus trunk to the version in gnus 5.10, as
>>> suggested (or at least implied) recently by the pgg author Daiki
>>> Ueno.
>>>
>>> As pgg is apparently something of a lame duck, and is a security related
>>> package, (2) seems like it may be the most expedient method.
>>
>> I'd agree, if that is what Daiki prefers.
>>
>> The work made on PGG in the trunk -- which do have some advantages,
>> such as better gpg-agent and smart card integration -- should ideally
>> be done for EasyPG, which appear to be replacing PGG in the future.
>> Some of it may already be working in EPG, though.
AFAICS, nobody objected to this proposal and IIRC it's what Daiki
prefers (IIRC).
Do we simply have to replace the files in the trunk by the v5-10 files
or is there anything that we must keep? (`pgg.el' in the trunk uses
`password.el'.)
> (2) would also have the advantage of shutting down the constant
> trickle of bug reports that can only be reproduced with the version on
> the trunk. (The latest being news:878xhq3p3m.fsf@Satux.Puorg).
Bye, Reiner.
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2007-01-06 14:34 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2007-01-21 9:58 ` Andreas Seltenreich
2007-01-21 10:32 ` Miles Bader
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From: Andreas Seltenreich @ 2007-01-21 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Reiner Steib writes:
>>> Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
>>>> (2) We revert pgg in the gnus trunk to the version in gnus 5.10, as
>>>> suggested (or at least implied) recently by the pgg author Daiki
>>>> Ueno.
> Do we simply have to replace the files in the trunk by the v5-10 files
> or is there anything that we must keep? (`pgg.el' in the trunk uses
> `password.el'.)
Well, I have to admit that I didn't think of password.el in my humble
attempt at resurrecting this thread :-/.
Would it make sense to divide this problem by first reverting only
pgg-gpg.el? This would shut down the pgg-gpg related bug reports
while postponing a decision on password.el. However I guess it also
won't mitigate Miles' merging problems much...
regards,
andreas
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* Re: pgg in gnus
2007-01-21 9:58 ` Andreas Seltenreich
@ 2007-01-21 10:32 ` Miles Bader
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From: Miles Bader @ 2007-01-21 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
Andreas Seltenreich <andreas+ding@gate450.dyndns.org> writes:
> Would it make sense to divide this problem by first reverting only
> pgg-gpg.el? This would shut down the pgg-gpg related bug reports
> while postponing a decision on password.el. However I guess it also
> won't mitigate Miles' merging problems much...
Well to be honest I don't have much problem -- I simply drop any changes
related to pgg...
-Miles
--
We are all lying in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
-Oscar Wilde
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