Re: smtp send using odd port

[Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>]

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:

> On Fri, Feb 03 2006, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>>   smtpmail-smtp-service is void as a variable.
>>
>>   Documentation:
>>   Not documented as a variable.
>
> (require 'smtpmail)
>
> Note that when using Emacs 21, you need a new version of `smtpmail.el'
> which is available from Emacs CVS or Simon Josefsson's web site.
> Simon, wouldn't it make sense to add `smtpmail.el' to Gnus' contrib
> directory for convenience?

Well, I'm using the cvs version of emacs (22.0.50) so would have the
appropriate smtpmail.el already?

Further; shouldn't having smtpmail type directives in gnus mean this
gets loaded on gnus startup?

I have this in gnus:

(setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) ; not for Gnus
(setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) ; for Gnus
(setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.newsguy.com")
(setq user-mail-address "reader@newsguy.com") 
(setq user-full-name "Harry Putnam")
(setq smtpmail-local-domain "newsguy.com")
(setq smtpmail-sendto-domain "newsguy.com")
(setq smtpmail-debug-info t) ; only to debug problems
(setq smtpmail-debug-verb t) ; only to debug problems

So does that mean that smtpmail.el was loading?

The code above  was working when this suprising C-x C-e showed:
  smtpmail-smtp-service is void as a variable.

I had just sent mail and watched the smtp conversation happen.
Returned to Hyneck's message since I'd forgotten the proper
formulation. And as reported it showed the void thing.

Related: I see this phenomena:

I get the smtpmail-smtp-service is void report, but if I do
 Shft-ALT-:  on this:

   (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 8025)

Then when doing C-x C-e on:

  (describe-variable 'smtpmail-smtp-service)
I get the expected output:

  smtpmail-smtp-service is a variable defined in `smtpmail.el'.
Its value is 8025
[...]

Something seems askew in that.

Further, can I get the full smtp conversation some how.
Or is this the full conversation (^M 's removed)? I don't see any AUTH
happening.


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From: Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
To: reader@newsguy.com
Subject: testing smtp send
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:43:42 -0600
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