From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19567 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2022 04:33:07 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Feb 2022 04:33:07 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEkqn-006VH4-Ad for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 22:33:05 -0600 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEkqm-003lRZ-LP for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 22:33:04 -0600 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEkqk-003lRQ-Dn for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 22:33:02 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEkqf-006VGf-3W for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 22:33:02 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vT1VDfH0zpAWGmuqKF3sZMBttOPAo9iJvLcRea/7cCk=; b=HYfoVhb4M3nRDFclFRELK9qfLW j4hnxtJXaOQjkiohPRdlk0zaxSAtlqk9LjN5qmQgUFUUYsgt5O2H6MjyRRWxMMHjxdbVUuaKX2Vtq i2a54VVDaOsOszKcMmEX6sVuGjWZnhZxyznmbEKSMx5a8o6v952XJwbVwFg4f1Hxy6tE=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nEkqX-0002HZ-7N for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 05:32:51 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nEkqV-0002zX-Fi for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 05:32:47 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: how to kill a virtual group Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 20:32:40 -0800 Message-ID: <87k0efjjfb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87a6ffx5jg.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <874k5nokor.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r18ro9py.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87czkbmrgf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ee4rflwa.fsf@zoho.eu> <87fsp7kwdp.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871r0qtuen.fsf@zoho.eu> <877dailawi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ee4oc0qy.fsf@zoho.eu> <87v8xziu7t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h79j8t3s.fsf@zoho.eu> <87zgnbjr90.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bkzrz3hg.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ydyJYjiyttfiVXwqF4hlve41z6k= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Emanuel Berg writes: > Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >>> Yes, but why should it matter when they are _used_? >>> Where and how they are defined? >> >> It matters when they are edited or deleted, that's all. >> It doesn't make any sense to edit or delete servers defined >> in .gnus.el via the *Server* buffer, because those changes >> will not persist -- they'll be re-written next time you >> start Gnus. > > Not necessarily, and besides: > > (setq some-integer 42) > M-: (cl-incf some-integer) RET > M-x kill-emacs RET I don't understand this. If `some-integer' is set to 42 in your init files, and you increment it, it will be back to 42 next time you start Emacs, that's the point.