From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/82535 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Burton Samograd Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Possible bugs (gnus-demon and switching modes when composing messages) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:20:34 -0700 Message-ID: <87k3tdacl9.fsf@samograd.ca> References: <874nm7wa9d.fsf@riseup.net> <87zk3yqg7z.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87ehl1wo79.fsf@riseup.net> <87hapxpctm.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <877gpn5s6b.fsf@riseup.net> <874nkr6x3e.fsf@rss01.mhs.man.ac.uk> <87haojoazn.fsf@riseup.net> <873903z0vk.fsf@descartes.dancingfrog.hopto.org> <877gpeobsa.fsf@riseup.net> <877gpejipj.fsf@riseup.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353652826 28838 80.91.229.3 (23 Nov 2012 06:40:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 06:40:26 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M30801@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Nov 23 07:40:34 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TbmwD-0003gK-9h for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:40:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Tbmuv-0008WU-Rl; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:39:13 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Tbag3-0005Jo-Aa for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:35:03 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tbag1-0001MU-Dz for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:35:02 -0600 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tbafz-00033Z-8a for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:34:59 +0100 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tbag4-0001M7-6k for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:35:04 +0100 Original-Received: from samograd.ca ([69.90.114.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:35:04 +0100 Original-Received: from burton by samograd.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:35:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: samograd.ca User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:zuNr73/LtdpXyi6aTAj4qbl+oNs= X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:82535 Archived-At: Sergio Durigan Junior writes: > On Wednesday, November 21 2012, I wrote: > >> On Wednesday, November 21 2012, Matt Ford wrote: >> >>> It might. To be clear when setting 'consider-all-articles' to 't', when >>> using nntp groups it produced unwanted behaviour. Every time I went to >>> a newsgroup it downloaded every single article ever posted every time >>> (regardless if I'd all ready done so). And some newsgroups are big. >> >> Ah, ok, I know what you mean now. `gnus-agent-consider-all-articles' >> is 'nil' for me since the beginning, and I didn't change it. So I think >> this is not the problem... > > Well, after more research on that topic, I found this: > > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/11608 > > In short: the author of the thread was complaining more or less about > the same thing, and his problem was that he was using > `gnus-fetch-old-headers', setting it to `t'. > > I do the same thing here in .gnus, and then I started to do some > experiments. Now, Gnus opens the newsgroup much faster, of course. It > doesn't have to download everything from news.gmane.org, only some > messages (I set `gnus-fetch-old-headers' to 500 specifically on gmane > groups). > > So, my question now is: what do you guys use? Do you also use > `gnus-fetch-old-headers'? I use gnus-fetch-old-headers, but I also use a leafnode as a local nntp server. This gives much better response when fetching a the larger number of articles that fetch old headers requires. It is pretty easy to setup to fetch articles from a number of remote nttp servers. -- Burton Samgorad