From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/81959 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Excessive nntp reads since today Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:53:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87k3z7bep9.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <877gvcd91f.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <85txygk74a.fsf@iznogoud.viz> <87y5nsbqj4.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <85pq94k37p.fsf@iznogoud.viz> <87aa08big2.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <85vcivuxmf.fsf@iznogoud.viz> <87haufw88y.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <85r4tjcgox.fsf@iznogoud.viz> <87zk87t4za.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <85oboja3nn.fsf@iznogoud.viz> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1339851300 10018 80.91.229.3 (16 Jun 2012 12:55:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M30229@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Jun 16 14:54:59 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SfsWo-0004TC-17 for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:54:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SfsVh-0001Y4-1d; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:53:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SfsVe-0001Xo-73 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:53:46 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SfsVc-0006Dl-OY for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:53:45 -0500 Original-Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SfsVb-00017O-0S; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:53:43 +0200 Original-Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id B829220B93; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:53:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=JSRAJQftSxZNSpf0YJhOx+N498g=; b=Ll2eOSTyq9N7YbkmVbczWs7n0prg sBMdeI9kKkfF3dL2Adc42YrRM9D/FMknYD/CxfXxNhT2UjrzKtFORO36fcfzrUKB fjvLXD6xbq4dXIqSK7Wv/ZX1F+RY0SE6HHzK0PyFibgQb/pEWtlL3o0U/d86EF53 uDbNy88S/buqMgI= X-Sasl-enc: VW6okp5DlYsWJYC7DXf8xCSqE5EHC/sONCY0GS31VPKS 1339851221 Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (unknown [91.67.9.216]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BE6A64824E4; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:53:40 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <85oboja3nn.fsf@iznogoud.viz> (Wolfgang Jenkner's message of "Sat, 16 Jun 2012 13:37:32 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:81959 Archived-At: Wolfgang Jenkner writes: >>> Well, as I said, when plugged the agent cache is, IMHO, designed to >>> be transparent with respect to the server. >>> >>> This implies that the summary should be the same as if the agent >>> were non used at all. >>> >>> Only when the agent is unplugged it effectively is the server and >>> you may expose its internal state in the summary. > >> Thus there shouldn't be a need to have subscribed groups to be >> complete (header) mirrors of all available messages on the server. > > Of course not. Nobody said that the agent should cache all headers. > > Quite the contrary, actually :-) But that's actually the effect of your patch. If the fetch-old argument is something not numerical, it'll fetch all headers starting with article number 1 and cache them in the .overview. Bye, Tassilo