From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/81348 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: auth-source for new users Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:39:47 +0100 Message-ID: <87k43q1sss.fsf@gmx.de> References: <877gzv4oat.fsf@gnus.org> <87mx8rwqpv.fsf@gmail.com> <87obt7s6uc.fsf@gnus.org> <877gzvumng.fsf@gmail.com> <87y5san1wo.fsf@gnus.org> <87sjie4q12.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1329158451 29874 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2012 18:40:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:40:51 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M29628@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Feb 13 19:40:50 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rx0pE-0002JE-8o for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:40:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rx0op-0004Dk-Am; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:40:07 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rx0oo-0004Da-An for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:40:06 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rx0on-0008Uo-9I for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:40:06 -0600 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]) by quimby.gnus.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rx0ol-0005oY-KN for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:40:03 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Feb 2012 18:39:57 -0000 Original-Received: from p57BB965F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO detlef.gmx.de) [87.187.150.95] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 13 Feb 2012 19:39:57 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19yD2BTwN5yu0iRZMNFmHpD+HiAYa2Jxh0Fv6Jhvj kP1WWv6JiGTuFx In-Reply-To: <87sjie4q12.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:11:21 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:81348 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > (to anyone interested, we're talking about new users with no auth-source > setup, not those who have already set up an authinfo file as suggested > by the auth-source docs) > > We're discussing this in an emacs bug thread. I'm not sure what's the > right solution here. There's valid scenarios for: > > 1) keeping the username+password in memory only (easy to implement!) > > 2) saving them to a keychain immediately > > 3) saving them to a netrc/authinfo file immediately > > 4) saving all credentials to a netrc/authinfo file later, keeping them > in memory now > > I favor (4) but Stefan Monnier likes (2) and keychains in general, and > there seems to be no consensus on what's best. So any opinions are > welcome. I'm in favour of (1) for *new* users. (2) is also OK, if there is a keychain. (3) and (4) would be surprising to new users. > Ted Best regards, Michael.