From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80553 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus newbie question: why do read articles disappear from summary? Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:00:32 +0800 Message-ID: <87k47ay7zj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1320764474 4783 80.91.229.12 (8 Nov 2011 15:01:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:01:14 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28836@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 08 16:01:11 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RNnAk-0001Xu-U8 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:01:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RNnAa-0002nx-F2; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:01:00 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RNnAY-0002nk-PO for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:00:58 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RNnAT-0004o8-Nn for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:00:58 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RNnAQ-0005Uk-91 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:00:50 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RNnAN-0001OO-2R for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:00:47 +0100 Original-Received: from 114.240.74.228 ([114.240.74.228]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:00:47 +0100 Original-Received: from eric by 114.240.74.228 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:00:47 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 114.240.74.228 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:13bdBlkjYCJRLROnn+3J3paxTJo= X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80553 Archived-At: On Tue, Nov 08 2011, Brendan Miller wrote: > After reading an article in summary it gets marked with 'R'. If I leave > the summary buffer for my group with q and log back in, that article > disappears. Why is this? Also, is there a way to prevent this behavior? > > Also, I've noticed there is a way to mark an article read using d, but > it makes it with a lower case 'r' flag. What's the difference between > this lower case 'r' flag and the upper case 'R' flag? > Thanks, > Brendan Miller That behavior is part of gnus' original identity as a newsreader: you only really want to see the news that's new, and if you want old news to hang around, you've got to do something special to make that happen. Gnus has made some concessions to being used as an email reader, though, and you can get something of the traditional "inbox" look though group parameters. When you're on the group name in the Gnus buffer, hit 'G p' to edit the parameters. There are a lot of possibilities, but the one you want is "display". Put the following in the parameters buffer: ((display . 200)) And hit 'C-c C-c' to save the changes. That will make the most recent 200 messages in the group always visible. To see even older ones, either enter the group with 'C-u SPC' and specify a number, or once you're in the group you can hit '/ o' ('o' for 'old') and tell it how many old messages to add to the buffer. I've never really understood the flags: I think 'R' means "really read" and 'r' means "I'm pretending I've read this". Practically, I've never seen a difference. Every time I leave a group and re-enter, all the marks are changed to 'O' anyway, whatever that means. 'A' for 'answered' is the only mark I've ever found informative… Eric -- GNU Emacs 24.0.91.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.6) of 2011-11-07 on pelletnNo Gnus v0.18