From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80171 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Sven Bretfeld" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Marking a whole imap-Folder as Expired Date: 5 Oct 2011 00:05:31 +0200 Message-ID: <87k48ks990.fsf@gmx.ch> References: <87d3ee4lgj.fsf@rub.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317766150 1322 80.91.229.12 (4 Oct 2011 22:09:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 22:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Sven Bretfeld" , ding@gnus.org To: "Greg Troxel" Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28465@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Oct 05 00:09:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RBDAf-000478-BO for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 00:09:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RBD9J-0008RA-3U; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:07:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RBD9H-0008Qz-Uv for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:07:39 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RBD9E-00087X-Jy for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:07:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mi.ruhr-uni-bochum.de ([134.147.64.30] helo=mx6.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de) by quimby.gnus.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RBD9C-0005T8-L6 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 00:07:34 +0200 X-Queued: (qmail 5870 invoked by alias); 4 Oct 2011 22:07:31 -0000 X-Queued: (qmail 3258 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2011 22:05:34 -0000 Original-Received: from c2-3-4.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (134.147.64.5) by mx6.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de with SMTP; 4 Oct 2011 22:05:34 -0000 X-Queued: (qmail 23703 invoked by uid 281); 4 Oct 2011 22:05:34 -0000 X-Qmailscanner: from 178.201.44.149 (0axIjN0NPR8aVk77i0pP0w==@178.201.44.149) by c2-3-4.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (envelope-from , uid 80) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (sophie: 3.05/3.21/4.67. 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Processed in 0.019984 secs); 04 Oct 2011 22:05:34 -0000 Original-Received: from ip-178-201-44-149.unitymediagroup.de (HELO kamaloka) (0axIjN0NPR8aVk77i0pP0w==@178.201.44.149) by c2-3-4.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 4 Oct 2011 22:05:34 -0000 In-Reply-To: (Greg Troxel's message of "Mon, 03 Oct 2011 07:59:34 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAIAAADYYG7QAAAACXBIWXMAAABIAAAASABGyWs+ AAAACXZwQWcAAAAwAAAAMADO7oxXAAABxElEQVRYw+1Yy3XEIAxkedtKTjn66F7cVDpwLz66lyQV 5JA8WdZnLNgEyHurk1fYYhhGQuzt5fVt35bEbJpX4WlpWc+t8YmHP7Xb5/tHLzJMy7R0QUAbPmxA pmJMZwOUB0P7tuj5hKeB2A+GTDTt021IUSeo6GleWwr8xFDfknhi6NsITeNiyO1giHKNxroQdjC0 b0sk89sxJED0EtNpyzQI7iSqtIdMc+y97IXNIFaKlW9s5kEJ/BlE4Qw9ePSaTY4Z884nps/0A/8Z OeDEmzqFCZN4M4ugpTUaa9+EhYtc6CzTcgbr1nlAsCKf2xoyFxovBJF85ED56B3H9ToTc/qkCj33 i4k9XjOYhhKhokhWZ6ULyFsrMJBu3pL0LO6WiUJQisMcihSIEEPVUErbmGlekYZAdK/we3C9O4zI x31bLhjS35QagG4GvKhDXEaPNEagfHDE07y6lVoUVvP88rqDyBq85iIq6qL90sq4XDBZSNQYawSf 9x+LFr7csu43oVFvrkmpnRcb3ceItilZTQ/2cyd/GIIhrpPrfqjBvYyrdgiGuNWkfR9A5qWxJ6Dg pfHX7f9oaDhAvUT93LJqQM8t+7Ev0JuM5jl6Ys0AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMTEtMDQt MThUMDE6MjY6MDcrMDI6MDCXxoTnAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDEwLTA1LTAzVDAxOjIx OjI3KzAyOjAwW9UkOQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80171 Archived-At: Hi Greg Greg Troxel writes: > "Sven Bretfeld" writes: >> Therefore, I have several messages in my inboxes marked with "O" (old), >> which excludes them from the expiry-process. Back in Gnus I have to >> manually set them to expired with by hitting "E" one after the other. > > Not what you asked, but I do this totally differently. > > I use gnus as my main mail reader, and also thunderbird, osx/Mail.app, > and iphone/Mail. While my mailinglist mail is like news, I consider my > INBOX to be not like news, and basically only want to explicitly delete > things. > > So, I have all the non-gnus MUAs set up to delete by moving to > nnimap+[foo]:Trash (vs "Deleted Messages" with whitespace), and then > > Then I bind 'd' to > > (defun gdt-gnus-move-to-trash () > (interactive) > (gnus-summary-move-article nil gdt-trash-newsgroup)) > > and delete messages when I'm done with them. Its interesting to read how other people cope with the ideosyncratisms of Gnus (compared to other mail readers). I do it differently. Since I'm using Gnus I got used to treat emails like news, and I like to have them out of sight after I have read them. Therefore it annoys me to see all my old mails when I'm in K9. In Gnus I organize my mails in a GTD-style structure. If it takes more than two minutes, I mark it unread and shift it to a "processing" folder: Action, Waiting, Review, Urgent etc. This workflow is interrupted in K9 where all my expired mails become visible again. Therefore I have my inboxes (the workflow-folders as well as the main inbox) set to auto-expire immediately with an "Expired" folder as the expiry-target. Just to have expired mails out of sight for K9. The "Expired" folder keeps mails for 14 days, this is the expected time-frame where it is possible that I have to visit that mail again due to follow-ups or reference purposes. After that they expire into a spool folder where they are fetched by fetchmail (POP) (and deleted from the server) to one of my local machines where they are stored in an ever-growing archive. > This whole scheme is built around the notion that I want reading the > INBOX on my phone to be useful, which for me means that all mailinglist > mail (and anything that gets even 1 point with spamassassin) does not > go to INBOX. I split mails similarly. The major INBOX is only for personal mail, which is then manually "processed" into the work-flow folders. Mailing-lists I don't access with my mobile or tablet. I only read them with Gnus. If I like to read them en route I ssh into the PC. Greetings, Sven