gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[jidanni]

Gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore if I forget upon
sending. Indeed, no reminder if there is no content either.

Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

jidanni@jidanni.org writes:

> Gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore if I forget upon
> sending. Indeed, no reminder if there is no content either.

Via email?  I don't think it's done that before?  The checks are
usually just done for NNTP news, if I recall correctly.

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Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[jidanni]

>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
LMI> jidanni@jidanni.org writes:

>> Gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore if I forget upon
>> sending. Indeed, no reminder if there is no content either.

LMI> Via email?  I don't think it's done that before?  The checks are
LMI> usually just done for NNTP news, if I recall correctly.

Well if it doesn't, maybe it should.

Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

jidanni@jidanni.org writes:

> LMI> Via email?  I don't think it's done that before?  The checks are
> LMI> usually just done for NNTP news, if I recall correctly.
>
> Well if it doesn't, maybe it should.

I don't think so.  Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.

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Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

jidanni@jidanni.org writes:

> But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".

Possibly.  It would have to wait until after the feature freeze is over,
though.

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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[jidanni]

>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

LMI> I don't think so.  Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.

But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".

One wouldn't want to appear unprofessional to a new potential date, so
this could be a lifesaver.

Pros could set a variable to turn it off, or just use echo I love you|mail sweethart

Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:18:48 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: 

>>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
LMI> I don't think so.  Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.

j> But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".

I would allow "(NO SUBJECT)" as a third option instead of just y/n.
It's fairly standard.

A common approach is to make the subject "blah blah <EOM>" which means
there's no body.  So if there's a single line in the body and no
subject, we could move it into the subject using this convention.

So, with a 1-line body:

are you sure you want to send without a subject? y/n/(m)ove body to subject/(N)o but make me sound intelligent with (NO SUBJECT)

and with a multi-line body:

are you sure you want to send without a subject? y/n/(N)o but make me sound intelligent with (NO SUBJECT)

j> One wouldn't want to appear unprofessional to a new potential date, so
j> this could be a lifesaver.

"All your dates are belong to Gnus"

Ted

Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[James Cloos]

FWIW, gnus master prompts me for a subject if I hit C-c C-c on a Message
buffer which has an empty Subject.  I don't remember any other behaviour
from any version from gnus.org.

-JimC
-- 
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[Antoine Levitt]

27/09/11 23:29, Ted Zlatanov
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:18:48 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: 
>
>>>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> LMI> I don't think so.  Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.
>
> j> But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".
>
> I would allow "(NO SUBJECT)" as a third option instead of just y/n.
> It's fairly standard.

Don't forget that many people write mail in languages other than
english. I'd prefer a blank subject rather than "(NO SUBJECT)" or
something like it anyway.

Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:17:53 +0200 Antoine Levitt <antoine.levitt@gmail.com> wrote: 

AL> 27/09/11 23:29, Ted Zlatanov
>> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:18:48 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: 
>> 
>>>>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
LMI> I don't think so.  Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.
>> 
j> But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".
>> 
>> I would allow "(NO SUBJECT)" as a third option instead of just y/n.
>> It's fairly standard.

AL> Don't forget that many people write mail in languages other than
AL> english.

It's a given that the string would be customizable three ways.  This is
Gnus, after all :)

AL> I'd prefer a blank subject rather than "(NO SUBJECT)" or something
AL> like it anyway.

Yup.  The idea is to be flexible and helpful.  So maybe one of the
options should be "no, and never mention this again."

Ted

Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[Antoine Levitt]

29/09/11 02:27, Ted Zlatanov
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:17:53 +0200 Antoine Levitt <antoine.levitt@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
> AL> 27/09/11 23:29, Ted Zlatanov
>>> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:18:48 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: 
>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> LMI> I don't think so.  Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.
>>> 
> j> But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".
>>> 
>>> I would allow "(NO SUBJECT)" as a third option instead of just y/n.
>>> It's fairly standard.
>
> AL> Don't forget that many people write mail in languages other than
> AL> english.
>
> It's a given that the string would be customizable three ways.  This is
> Gnus, after all :)

Yes, I meant to say that there's no real way for gnus to know whether
I'm writing in english or in french for a particular message. It's a
minor point.

Also, some SMTP servers (e.g. smtp.gmail.com) add a (no subject) by
themselves.

"are you sure? y/n" looks fine to me. Presumably, hitting C-c C-c with
no subject is either a mistake, in which case the user answers "n", gnus
jumps point to the Subject line, and the user edits it, or it's a
deliberate omission, in which case the user can answer "y". It's
bikeshedding anyway.

Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[Adam Sjøgren]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:34:34 +0200, Antoine wrote:

> "are you sure? y/n" looks fine to me. Presumably, hitting C-c C-c with
> no subject is either a mistake, in which case the user answers "n", gnus
> jumps point to the Subject line, and the user edits it, or it's a
> deliberate omission, in which case the user can answer "y". It's
> bikeshedding anyway.

Yes, I agree, me too, AOL. +1. ++.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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 "Sunday morning when the rain begins to fall                 Adam Sjøgren
  I've got the cure for it all"                          asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore

[jidanni]

>>>>> "JC" == James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> writes:
JC> FWIW, gnus master prompts me for a subject if I hit C-c C-c on a Message
JC> buffer which has an empty Subject.  I don't remember any other behaviour
JC> from any version from gnus.org.

Hmmm, I now too get
"Empty header for Subject; enter value: "
so maybe it got fixed.