Re: message-yank-original issue

[Michael Welsh Duggan <md5i@md5i.com>]

Antoine Levitt <antoine.levitt@gmail.com> writes:

> 14/03/11 20:47, Ted Zlatanov:
>
>> For non-Gnus code (and message.el recently became a standalone part of
>> Emacs, loaded without Gnus) it's better to be prudent and stay away from
>> CL functions and macros.
>
> But what's the rationale behind not loading it as part of the standard
> emacs load? Is it a loading time issue? The command
>
> time emacs -nw -Q --eval "(require 'cl)" --eval "(kill-emacs)"
>
> does not appear to be noticeably longer than the same one without cl, on
> the two machines I've tried. (but maybe they're both too fast to measure
> it)

My understanding is that the reason is twofold:

1) The cl functions don't have their own namespace.
2) The cl functions don't follow the same conventions as emacs lisp.
   (Keyword arguments being a good example.

These are what I recall RMS's objections to be, and are not mine.  (I
require cl as the very first non-comment in my .emacs.el.)

-- 
Michael Welsh Duggan
(md5i@md5i.com)