From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68342 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Ryde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnrss lacks basic crosspost detection; should use guid Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:46:09 +1100 Organization: Bah Humbug Message-ID: <87k5789ase.fsf@blah.blah> References: <87r61jwqit.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235944100 3752 80.91.229.12 (1 Mar 2009 21:48:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:48:20 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16781@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Mar 01 22:49:36 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LdtXU-00031q-Ff for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:49:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdtVQ-0001qM-Pj; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:47:28 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdtVP-0001q6-72 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:47:27 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LdtVL-0000qC-UD for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:47:27 -0600 Original-Received: from mailout2-1.pacific.net.au ([61.8.2.224] helo=mailout2.pacific.net.au) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1LdtVh-0003fg-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:47:45 +0100 Original-Received: from mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (mailproxy1.pacific.net.au [61.8.2.162]) by mailout2.pacific.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988C81B3B3B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:47:17 +1100 (EST) Original-Received: from blah.blah (ppp2E06.dyn.pacific.net.au [61.8.46.6]) by mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B3D8C06 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:47:17 +1100 (EST) Original-Received: from gg by blah.blah with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LdtU9-0000xz-7J for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:46:09 +1100 In-Reply-To: <87r61jwqit.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:53:14 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68342 Archived-At: jidanni@jidanni.org writes: > > 35873 at http://www.coolloud.org.tw What do the specs say about the scope of a non-permalink guid? I recently struck these two feeds http://rss.weather.com.au/sa/adelaide http://rss.weather.com.au/nt/darwin which have the same guid (non-permalink), but different content. (They update every 15 minutes or something, the guid changes with such updates, but to the same new value for the two locations.) It made me suspect non-permalink guid is only for the given feed url, apparently not univeral nor even throughout the given server. (I jigged up Message-ID from my rss2leafnode program accordingly, but couldn't find the right bit of the specs to confirm or deny.)